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This is actually all very true. The Bills do their best when the offensive gameplan essentially becomes "backyard ball" -- that's a disaster over the course of a full season, but in a playoff game against an aggressive defense, it actually really works in their favor. I mean, It's not like the Jags secondary can shut down the Bills WRs any more than they already are.

I couldn't possibly agree more. My very vocal criticism of Taylor is based on the fact that his style of play and an offensive system built around his skill set just isn't set up for consistent success over the course of a full NFL season. However, all of that goes out the window in the playoffs. Taylor could conceivably be the X-factor for a change and really control the game. I hope he does, it would be exciting to see.

You know what? I stand corrected -- you're right. Tolbert had 41 rushing yards against Denver, and McCoy had 21. Of course, McCoy also had 7 catches on 7 targets for 48 yards to Tolbert's 0 for 0 in that game. He was Tyrod's most target receiver on the year, by the way. Tyrod would have been an even bigger mess this year without McCoy, especially in the passing game.

It's McCoy and it's not even close. After Tyrod's 56 yard dumpster fire against New Orleans, Peterman came in a put up better numbers. It was only 5 minutes against a Saints D that was headed for the bus, but he still managed to outplay Tyrod that day. At no point has any RB come in and produced better than McCoy. The kid also played a great first half in a Blizzard against the Colts -- mostly because of 25. So the drop-off from Taylor to Peterman isn't anywhere near the drop-off from LeSean McCoy to Mike Tolbert.

You keep saying this. I actually take offense to your accusation. I am far too clever to use a screen name like "Crusher". The bravado comes from being right. But back to my post. You say it's "stupid", yet you provide no argument or evidence to the contrary. I basically laid out a very logical argument for how a completely dysfunctional passing game can cause a spiral-down effect on other areas of the game, especially in a passing-based league. How is that wrong?

Just a reminder that punts are basically controlled turnovers. Keep that in mind when you see Colton trot on to the field.

I would argue this point -- it's not fair to Taylor to not credit his major contribution as a leader and captain. He showed great poise and professionalism, especially late in the season. He most certainly led this team.

True Statement: Those guys have bad games, just like Tyrod does. True Statement: Those guys have really great games, but Tyrod does not.

1. I've said multiple times that Taylor is the consummate pro and was instrumental in putting the Bills in the position they were in last Sunday afternoon. He played very well in the games the team needed over the last month and deserves all the credit for that. 2. It is also very true that this team advanced in spite of an absolutely inept passing offense and some very, very poor single-game performances from Taylor. A win in Carolina or Cincinnati would have made the Ravens game irrelevant. Make whatever excuses you want about coordinator or receivers, but the reality is that these are still NFL players and Taylor is a 7 year veteran. Those were very winnable games he left on the table, not to mention several others that we can debate about forever. 3. Not even close. Aside from throwing the football, he's the epitome of what a pro athlete should be. 4. I am. This is great, are you kidding me? It's about damn time we get the breaks to go our way for once. 5. I'll be honest, I never thought he could. But Tyrod played the hand he was dealt -- an opportunistic defense, a very weak conference, and a miraculous last-second rally in Baltimore -- and turned it into a playoff birth for the Bills. Full marks for that. 6. It was at the time it was made, absolutely. Of course, you can say it was wrong after the fact, but the bar had been set so low that the odds of anyone coming in and doing a worse job than Taylor at that point were ridiculously long. Amazingly, Nate Peterman found a way to beat the odds and made Taylor's 56 yards passing look great by comparison. The odds on this team making it to the playoffs were also long -- this team seems to have a knack for that kind of thing. 7. I was guardedly optimistic going into week 15 & 17. Had really nothing to do with Taylor, but more the result of a defense-mechanism that has developed over the decades of being a Buffalo Sports fan. There's a reason why "Billsing" has become a verb around here. 8. This is very true. Taylor would not have gotten the team here without the assist from a defense that had an affinity for more than a few very timely turnovers throughout the year. 9. I'm hoping that Taylor takes advantage of the opportunity he has in Jacksonville. With McCoy limited, he needs to be the guy to take the game over. It would be an incredible story and I want to see it happen for him. Taylor has the chance to change his entire narrative. I just want to see a Bills QB be the best player on the field for a change. It's been a long time since that's happened. Go get it, Tyrod.

Well, of course there are... because qualifying for the playoffs added a huge, brand new factor to consider. So for those of us most interested in the QB position, it's a new conversation to be had. That's the beauty of places like this online -- you can go discuss the finer points of run-blocking and breakdown the Jags LB tendencies on film, and I can go and talk about Tyrod Taylor and the fascinating conundrum he presents right now at the most important position in sports.

What were those names again?

I was asking an honest question because I'm having a hard time with the fact that the biggest play by a QB of the drought ending season was really a Bengals highlight. Just out of a sense of pride, It kind of bothers me. So, due specifically to my critical view of Tyrod Taylor -- I wanted to ask the board here to help me out, because maybe there were plays I missed or didn't give the guy enough credit for. You are free to interpret this thread as you see fit.

I agree -- I think everything hinges on the Bills first 2 or 3 possessions on offense. Tyrod needs to come away with at least 10 points for the Bills to be able to stay in the game. If it's a couple of punts or FGs, and Jacksonville gets an early lead -- then it's pretty much game over.

This is the best way to voice your displeasure. Save the $10 and just stop clicking on Rodney's articles.

That's what I was looking for -- some good opinions on what were his big moments in 2017. Thanks

Yes, it was an admirable series of events and he showed great professionalism both in LA & KC. But I'm looking for a highlight or single play.

Why? You don't think that with a full year of NFL offseason, that Peterman (or any 2nd-year QB for that matter) won't be better?

I think I found it. The 22 yard TD pass to Logan Thomas against the Bucs, maybe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMmGf1jClBk

You clicked on this one and chose to read it. I'm sure there's plenty of film out there for you to really sink your teeth into, coach. Better get cracking though, you only have three days left. Anyway, I wasn't trolling and this wasn't intended to bash Taylor. It was an honest question, because I couldn't really come up with anything -- which is odd for a season that results in a playoff birth for the first time in nearly two decades. Like, if I were in charge of the Bills video yearbook, what would I use to really sum up 2017 for the starting QB? Me either. That's why I was asking, haha.

Tyrod Taylor is the starting QB of the first Bills team to break through to the playoffs in 17 years, and has rightfully earned a special place in Buffalo Sports History because of it. What would you say was his signature play or highlight from 2017? The Dalton to Boyd 49 yard TD pass on 4th & 12 that beat the Ravens is not eligible for consideration, by the way. I'm looking for a Tyrod Taylor heroic moment that really sums up this season.

Finally we agree on something!

Under the Sea, Tyrod is probably in the 13,000-9,000 range. You're crazy if you think Taylor is really better than all 20,000.

What league are you referring to? The Arena League? The National Hockey League? The Premier League? The League of Nations? The Justice League?

I can see that accepting the fact that Tyrod Taylor is not very good at playing QB is difficult for you. So, why don't we defer to an expert? http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2017/11/cameron_jordan_on_strategy_against_qb_tyrod_taylor_we_made_him_a_quarterback.html I mean, in his one full season as the starter, even JP Losman was putting up Tyrod's numbers this year. JP had 3051 yards passing and 19 TDs. He had 14 INTs, too. Not saying JP is better than Tyrod. Just pointing out the level of production we are working with here with Taylor, for some perspective.