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I think an All Pro center is the quickest thing that can turn this offense around. We need a mean SOB anchoring that line, losing Eric Wood killed us. Unless AJ Green or Julio Jones is available, I want the meanest center or LG we can find with that 1st pick.

I think he could play on a better team with better support. Many of the good ones played extremely dumbed down offenses their rookie years, but they all had vets to lean on while Allen has Andre Holmes and Ryan Groy.

Allen, Edmunds, Star, Phillips, Kyle Williams, Dion Dawkins, Hyde, Poyer, Milano, Tre White.

Truth, brother. But to me, McDermott got us to the playoffs year 1, he's earned my patience and respect for that. I'm not happy about the bare cupboard on offense, but once again, we'll see what happens. If Allen regresses, no matter what the reason is, fire all of them. You need a QB in this league to have sustainable success, that's my bottom line.

I question some of the moves too, but as a fan, I think they deserve a fairshake. This year does not count, you got a rookie QB, he needs to grow. I need to see how they develop Allen in year 2. If Allen regresses, Beane and McD should be gone. This year absolutely 100% does not matter to me though, I'm not expecting anything, but if they do finish strong, I mean who wouldn't want that?

The guy is a load, really scary dude IMO. Few plays I noticed him explode into the backfield, he didn't get the sack or tackle but it opened up other guys to make a play. Snacks was a damn good football player, better at run D than Star but not as explosive. I think Star can pass rush better than Snacks ever could, won't be a 10 sack guy but I think he has some ability there.

You're absolutely free to your opinion, we'll just have to politely, civilly and respectfully disagree. Lotulelei has been excellent for Kyle Williams and Tre Edmunds. This guy is worth it IMO. He will be a veteran leader in that locker room when Kyle is gone and an excellent player next to Harrison Phillips. Once Kyle is gone we won't have much money at all tied up at DT and unlike Kelvin Benjamin, Star has bought into the process.

It's a rebuild, either way there'd be a hole, it's just a matter of where, I guess. McDermott is supposed to be a defensive guru, shouldn't need All-Pros at every position to field a good defense.

We need a veteran WR, we need to draft one too though. I'd back up the Brinks truck on a reliable classy #1. An 8m/yr wideout may cost us 11.5 and I hope Beane understands. We will absolutely have to overspend, but we have to. Don't play moneyball, they'll sign somewhere else.

I think Lotulelei's contract is fair, I may be in the minority there but 10m per year for high end run stuffer is palatable. Were there better options? Perhaps, but I saw Damon Harrison get a similar contract so I know what Star got is not as over the top as fans make it out to be. Should have overpaid John Brown to come here with Murphy's money.

I do like Lotulelei, not a big fan of Murphy though, would have liked to get a WR with that money.

They've completely neglected offense. I reaaaaaally thought we had a nice draft, but if you wanted to draft defense should have splurged big money on offense in FA.

Ive had a WONDERFUL day today, but good grief, I have to be negative here for a second unfortunately. You trade a THIRD for Kelvin Benjamin YOUR GUY and even he doesn't buy in! Your own dude, c'mon man, that's alarming. What culture change? Seriously? Zay Jones had to tell him where to LINE UP. Culture change? hahahahahahaha

The only way to change the culture is by WINNING!

I can't stop watching, I love the Bills, I only get so animated because I care about the team and the wonderful city of Buffalo so much. The Bills are my family, you don't give up on family. You may disagree with them and hate what they're doing, but your stuck with them for life.

Your optimistic in the rebuild, I'm not. I went over why I'm not optimistic repeatedly already, you disagree and that's fine. To be frank, I don't trust the process. Can I blame McD for the last 20 years? No. It's a collection of people, he is part of it though. Ralph being the biggest part of it, Terry the lesser part. I'm just frustrated man.

@Alphadawg7 I'm not going through each point, many many many folks disagree with me and that is 100% fine. I understand I may seem negative right now, but many fans here also agree with my thoughts, if not in this thread, around the forum. Optimism is not always reality though, you feel me? Sometimes reality isn't a rosy thing, but it gives fans hope and that's a good thing, but don't get it twisted, optimism is by no means a reality.

I thought we would win between 7 to 9 games. Thought Benjamin, Clay and Shady were going to be a lot lot lot better than this, I am sorely disappointed. Would Wood, Watkins or Glenn be as successful here? Absolutely not! Absolutely not! But so what? We would be 1,000x better and that's all that matters to me. As far as how many rebuilds I've been through? All of them, which is why I'm losing my patience. Don't get me wrong, we drafted well, but none of these guys help Allen, none of them. And to have an offense that can't put points on the board will work against your defense. I question McD's coaching credentials, he has no concept of building a team and I'm extremely concerned that he needs so many players on defense. Highly highly question his ability as a coach. As far as the negativity, I'm sorry but I'm just tired of circling the drains and not the wagons. Going on 20 years of this ****, we are the Cleveland Browns bro.

Nobody Circles the Drain like the Buffalo BILLS! ?

We have a defensive coach and literally all our assets went towards defense, no help at all went to offense, NOTHING. The #7 overall pick has no help at all because our defensive guru !@#$ing brilliant mastermind head coach needs a god damn All-Pro at every position to field a decent defense.

No, I just cannot tolerate BS. We will be picking top 10. Plan? PLAN?

You are a sheep, no free thought, you just gobble it up. Plan my !@#$ing ass, 1-3 and your plan sucks dick.

Glenn at LT with Dawkins at RT was the right move, period. Glenn was a road grader and a good LT for a long time. We essentially replaced him instead of stacking the line. The problem with Buffalo is we just let good guys go, we are the farm team for the NFL. Woods, Watkins, Glenn, Darby and Robey will have long careers elsewhere.

Is Andre Holmes and Zay Jones better? Think for yourself, don't be a yes man. If we made the right decisions we wouldn't be getting pummeled into a bloody pulp. I did like Mahomes, but of course we didn't draft him because we wanted to keep our emasculated and castrated GM for another year. If Andy Reid wants to trade up with you for a QB, it probably means that QB is good. Andy Reid is one of the best, doesn't take a Miss Chloe to see that, I think Stevie Wonder could see that. Sit down.

Why take shots at me? We're both fans of the same team, I see you attack other Bills fans quite regularly, it's a poor reflection of who you are, not me. Robert Woods is good enough to be Jared Goffs #1 WR, don't think Allen could use him? Don't think we could use Sammy Watkins either? Good enough for Andy Reid and the Chiefs. Both good enough for two of the games brightest coaches and their young QBs. I want those guys for our young QB.