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And yet he is basically the same QB we was in college after 20 games. Time will tell if he improves on that, history largely shows he won’t. I hope he does. I hated the pick, especially giving up 2 2nd picks to get him, but am really hoping he and Bills are super successful.

You mean like 2 other QBs we could have had? Watson - 32 games, 683/1011 67.6 %. 63 TD/22 INT 8296 yds. 259 yds/game Mahomes - 24 games, 562/856. 65.7%. 65 TD/14 INT. 7561 yds. 315 yds/game Question was “Is Josh Allen improving as a passer”. Correct? I just posted ALL of his stats from college and pros side by side. I guess anyone can slice specific games or specific few games. I just showed them all.

2016/2017 Wyoming 2018/2019 Bills 25 Games. 20 Games 361/643 56.2%. 317/563. 56.3% 5015 yds. 3727 yds Yds/Game. 200 yds Yds/Game. 186 yds Yds/Attempt 7.7. Yds/Attempt. 6.6 Yds/Completion 13.8. Yds/Completion. 11.75 44 TDs. 20 TDs 21 Int. 19 Int

We passed on Watson. We passed on Mahomes. We traded 2 2nd round picks to move up 5 spots to basically draft Tyrod. I still just don’t get anything about the handling of the QB position with this administration.

2017 - Today Bills record against teams that finished season/projected for this year, @ .500 or above 5-14, outscored 495-229 With the 5 wins against teams @ .500 or better Bills averaging only 18.6 pts in the WIN 2 of the 5 wins are against teams right @ .500 Of the 5 wins against teams @ .500 or above, only 1 was at home vs 7 losses at home. Only home win was a 2018 13-12 win against Titans.

Isn’t this the point, the Eagles are good and the Bills got their a** kicked at home. I understand they can only play the schedule they are given, but when they do play a better team they need to win a couple of them. Warren Sharp stat from yesterday, Bills now 0-8 the last 2 years against teams with average or better offenses. They allow 29 ppg and lose by average score of 29-9. They need to start getting a couple of signature wins against good teams or we will continue to just be talked about as the paper tiger that we are. I hope they do, probably only have a couple opportunities to do so this season. Cowboys and Patriot wins would really help. JMHO

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I was enjoying you trolling everyone, now I worry that you actually believe everything what you are posting.

Christianity

Or in the draft. WR thin in both places.

To be clear it is largely McBeane’s doing. They gutted the roster, they traded away multiple picks on a rebuilding team. People act like these guys inherited this team and draft board. Even if you believe it is part of “the process,” they created this mess.

That sounds great and all, but this organization has not only shown no interest in offense at all in past what 15 years, but shown no ability to draft the most important position in all of sports. Its unreal how bad they have been with offense since the K gun era.

So we could have resigned Robert Woods in March if 2017, draft Mahomes in 2017 draft, kept Sammy, kept Glenn because we don’t need the draft pick to trade up to get Allen. So offense with Mahomes, Shady, Watkins, Woods, Clay. Glen and Dawkins anchoring the line, all sure sounds like something that might be ok, at least light years better then our current situation. This also would allowed us to still draft Edmunds and save the draft pick lost for KB. But yeah, we wouldnt have a good CB.

McBeane are really good at trading players for a almost nothing to free up cap space.

Culture reasons? Culture is the most overrated concept in all of sports. They traded and cut players with more talent, then they received, drafted or signed. "Culture," "process," "faith, family and football" are things spoken by those who don't have a real plan or idea what they are doing. They are created to blind the sheep and it has clearly worked with many Bills fans and the Pegulas.

This Bills offseason: Vonte - Inactive/Quit Kerley - Cut McCarron - Traded Coleman - Cut Ivory - 3rd String RB Bodine - Bench Murphy - Injured/ little today Star - His name even mentioned the 1st 2 games?

They didn’t have to use that capital. They could have gotten similar or better players, along with others to get the rebuilding started. They could have gotten several QB for less or even no capital. They gave up capital to get Allen, Edmunds and Harrison, along with giving up capital to get Zay and gave up Dareus to get Wyatt Teller. With a bad roster, with tons of holes, the foundation of this rebuild was way to expensive IMHO.

They used 6 1-3 round picks to draft 3 players, Allen, Edmunds and Harrison. Even if all 3 of those players are good for a rebuilding team with a ton of needs that is not smart.

This 1000x over!!

Star was 5yr 50 mil. Which was in the ballpark of what Dareus had left on his contract. Dareus was traded because he wasn’t a McBeene type player. Ok, fine. Can you build a Super Bowl team with only McBeene type players, or at some point talent at least for a few mean more then the McBeene Way? No. Healthy scratch.

Then sign Star, his replacement and Vonte to those contracts?

They did have to draft one, they took the wrong one and gave up a bunch of capital they couldn’t afford or need to to get Allen. They could have had Watson, Mahomes or Rosen for no or much less draft capital. I hated the trade up for Allen, don’t think he will be a franchise QB in NFL. Hope I’m wrong. Bad teams can’t afford to give up draft picks, especially for Non QB. Who else in the league makes a Dareus for Teller trade? People who value having “their kind of guys” over sustained winning. Just my opinion. Not screaming mad.

They took 6 picks Rd 1-3 on a bad team that needed all of them and ended up with Allen, Edmunds and Harrison. They knew they were down Eric Wood and didn’t address OL. They traded Dareus for Teller, a 5th rd OL project. That doesn’t seem like a good trade, but I’m sure he is more of a McBeene “kind of guy” then Dareus. Ray Ray is an all ready hurt 7th rd thrown in as a bone to Bills as the gave up farm to get the 3 best QB in the Mountain West. Really? Ok.

You actually think they have been adept at drafting?

So there have not been enough moves, games and actions for me to have an opinion on their plan? If so, how many moves, games and actions must they complete for me to have ANY opinions on their plan? Speaking of hyperbolic, there is a 10 page thread on if you hate the Bills, why are you here. So opinions that don’t fall into proper Bills messaging and fandom make us not supporters. I think the hyperbolic statements come largely, not completely, from Bills blinder type fans.