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Can we say he may be overrated?

I’m taking this weekend off also, need a break. The wins don’t do anything for me anymore, even KC, and the loses are just brutal. Just can’t keep doing this with my time and money year after year. The league itself is unwatchable at this point. Every play there is a flag, injury or a review. Football is a great sport, the NFL is a bad league. I’ll stick to Saturday college football, which still is fun to me and my boys.

No

The college game is just so much better in so many ways. NFL games are almost unwatchable. Penalty flags almost every snap, brutal injuries all over the field, and like 1/2 a dozen reviews every half. The games has zero pace and flow, just a bad product to watch. I heard a great quote this week about the NHL that I think also applies to NFL. Hockey is a great sport, the NHL is a crap league. Football is a great sport, the NFL is a crap league.

Josh just spoke to the press a couple hours ago, did anyone ask him if he was vaccinated?

Do we know for sure that Josh is vaccinated?

Many of ESPN guys not so high. Stephen A didn’t even have us in top 5, but he had Patriots there. Get Up guys when asked if it’s not KC then who, all on that panel picked the Browns. I really don’t mind as I prefer to be under radar.

Yes.

If Cole was cut today, how many teams would be willing to sign him tomorrow? My guess is few to none. Even Jerry Jones, and Bob Kraft are taking hard lines with COVID and vaccines.

So when will the Bills finally have enough and cut at least one of them to send their own message. This is a threat to team success.

Almost every study done on public funding for stadiums has shown it has done almost nothing for local economies as they always sell, yet always enriches the team owners.

We have a very large and strong union with my job. Our union also reached an agreement on vaccines without our vote. Not all things required member body vote to come to an agreement within a union. We actually got a really good deal for getting vaccinated and had over 80% of 13,000 vaccinated within 2 weeks of agreement. Those who remain unvaccinated, that’s their choice, but life will become very inconvenient for them. This really doesn’t seem that hard, not sure why it is for some of them.

I didn’t think it was possible to hate Mahomes, who knew. As a 45 year Bills fan, I prefer Mahomes over Allen, but think the discussion is already old and tired.

Is there some unwritten rule I’m unaware of that would have caused fight?

I live in Denver and have followed Lindsay since his transition from Denver South HS, to CU, to Broncos. Great guy, big heart, but is basically the same back as Singletary. I would love to have him on our team, but not both him and DS.

Yep, for sure.

There are 16 NFL Coaches I would trade for McDermott. Doesn’t include college coaches I would take over him. Harbaugh, Reid, Tomlin, Payton, McVay, Vrabel, Arians, Carroll, Shananhan, Pederson, Belichick, Flores, Reich, LaFleur, Rhule, Kingsbury He is very average, and very boring in every way.

Team Off - 13th Def - 17th Turnovers - 17th Point Differential is -1 Looks average offense, below average defense with the Top 3 team offensive teams next on our schedule.

He was hurt much of season. Played through a lot even though he could have shut it down for NFL. Watch this piece on Laviska and his family. https://pac-12.com/videos/laviska-shenault-jr-credits-inspiration-his-late-father-success-colorado I’m a Denver resident, CU fan, and have seen him play many times in person. He is a stud athlete, versatile, with good hands but has been a bit injury prone. He is a amazing kid, with tough story. Would love him with the Bills, but needs to prove he can stay healthy.

I have 2 kids attending CSU and not exactly a fan of JA as a player. Yet, I have ZERO problem with this, I love it. It’s what makes college football so great. Passion and tradition is real and stays with you your whole life. That said, I am hoping for Rams win. BTW, Cam not a sheep and has the biggest sack in the WAC.

You just a few posts ago said there was a reason Kyle Allen was not drafted, do you think there then is a reason Josh had no D1 out of HS, 2 D1 offers out of JC, and was 3rd team all MWC senior season at Wyoming? College Allen #1 - 25 GP, 4283 Yds, 61.7%, 7.4 Y/Att, 37 TD, 18 INT, Rating 138.6 Allen #2 - 27 GP, 5066 Yds, 56.2%, 7.8 Y/Att, 44 TD, 21 INT, Rating 137.7 One Allen UDFA, other gave up 2 2nd rd picks to trade to #7 to draft. I’m not saying I would trade Allens, but I sure as hell wouldn't have drafted one of them #7 overall.

I’m not a f*****g troll. I’m not CSU fan trolling Josh. I’m a WNY native, huge Bills fan, that has a different opinion as you. GMAFB. FYI, I grew up in suburbs of Rochester, my family and I have been Bills fans my whole life. My 3 older children were born at Strong Hospital in Rochester. I was married in a church in Pittsford, as my wife is also a Rochester native. Professionally I have moved around with my company. We left WNY in 2004, lived in Houston for 8 years. Then moved to Denver when my older kids were starting High School. We just moved back to WNY this summer with our 2 younger kids, our 3 older kids stayed in Colorado as 2 of them are at Colorado St, another at the University of Colorado. I’m not a CSU fan, just attended many games with my boys. I’m a CU fan where my daughter attends school. I’m a passionate, lifelong Bills fan. I’ve watched every game, even having been away for 15 years. Yes, I hated the Allen pick, like I said before mostly because they gave up capital to get him. I hope Josh is the QB for us now that he is here.

I guess I’m not sure what your logic is. 1) There were reasons why Josh was at Wyoming and not a P5 school. Not recruited out of HS, and only 2 D1 offers out of JC Wyoming and Eastern Michigan. 2). Yes, I think if you put Watson or Mahomes on the exactly same Wyoming team they would have been better then Josh. 3). Big Ben played in the MAC, started almost every game all 3 years he was there without P5 talent, and was significantly better statistically. Joe Flacco at Delaware we’re he passed for almost 7000yds and 64% completion in his 24 starts there, not P5 talent around him. 4). Yes I think that elite talent at inferior schools should do be expected to do really well. Also remember, they may not have P5 talent on their team, but they aren’t playing P5 talent either. I hope Josh is amazing. For or me Joe Flacco or Big Ben careers would be great result for Josh. Could have had 2 HOF level QBs and given up no draft capital for them. JMHO Also, I have 2 boys in school at Colorado St, have seen tons of MWC football including Josh in person his last year. Also have 2 D1 football playing nephews.

No, not projects. Both Mahomes and Watson passed for well over 5,000 yds, 65% Completion. Both had at least 45 TDs and less then 18 INTs in their 1st 20 starts.

I don’t blame Josh at all and I like him. It’s not his fault for where he was drafted, what team drafts him and what type of coaches coach him. I blame McBeane. They not only passed on 2 college college QBs from power 5 conferences that passed for over 10,000 yds and 65% completion %. They gave up 2 2nd round picks to get a mountain west QB that even his biggest supporters says was a project. Has he improved, sure maybe some this season in some areas. I’m hoping he has similar path as Big Ben career wise. A big QB, out of small conference, who had slow 1st couple of seasons, that grows into a all pro, super bowl winning QB. There is time, and I’m hoping for his success.