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I love Thurman and he definitely got his due for his accomplishments. 2X All Pro, 1991 MVP and HOF. Lead in All Purpose scrimmage yards for 4 straight seasons. He had a terrific SB25 and was mvp worthy. But let's face it, he had terrible games in SB 26/27/28. I know its a team effort and everyone played a part. Whether you want to blame Kelly for not moving the offense and costly interceptions or the D not being able to produce stops. He was tough to watch. Super Bowl XXVI: 10 rushes for 13 yards, 1 touchdown, and 4 receptions for 27 yards. Super Bowl XXVII: 11 rushes for 19 yards, 1 touchdown, and 4 receptions for 10 yards. Super Bowl XXVIII: 16 rushes for 37 yards, 1 touchdown, and 7 receptions for 52 yards. I realize his regular season stats are impressive and elite level. From 1989 to 1993 he was a freaking machine. Emmitt has the rings and awards and Barry godlike numbers in a short time. And remember, Thurman was a 2nd Ballot HOF'er. He was great, but nobody should be upset if he's considered 3rd amongst the bunch. That is a solid point. 👍

Without going any further I'll say 2020, but Ican see 2024 being there as well.

Nothing makes a vet pick up his game like a youngling nipping at his heels.👍 I keep watching TJ Sanders' college highlights and really like what I'm seeing. 🤤 Dline is going to super deep this year to the point I feel there won't be much of a drop off when rotation starts.

I think Coleman will improve, but not sure if his actual numbers will reflect it due to all the new targets and their distribution. Surprisingly, I also think Shakir will improve with another year of trust and chemistry with Josh. I expect him to just break 1k this season. Regression is a tough one. Many say Daquan, but to me in order to regress you have to be a major starter and I feel his snap count will be seriously reduced if not getting cut outright. Gotta think it'll be Milano. I think he'll be critical in a playoff push if healthy, but being older and injury prone could hurt. I also think this will also be a year Williams takes another step. Dark horse regression candidate? I'm going with Bernard.

Mike "Full Of" Mularky...

Agree. Their offense is a bunch one read trigger throws like Miami does with Tua. Nix is a lot more elusive though which allows him to improvise and tuck and run if his first option isn't there. Bills O Line is imo much more formidable both in run and pass blocking.

Gotta say early off season when he made his demands known (15 mil per) I thought it was way too much. But now considering the RB position is sort of in a Renaissance period, I feel he maybe very close to his expectations. He's a more physical runner than most give him credit for and it appears he's taken care of his fumble and drop issues. If he can become a better blocker he'd be a complete back. He wants 15 and Beane is probably thinking 11. So call 4yr. 13 per 52 mil/ 40 guaranteed

I think I know why many TEs didn't show up. 🤢🤢🤢 https://www.nfl.com/news/taylor-swift-has-surprise-performance-at-tight-end-university-in-tennessee

I'd say he's between 5-10.

Why? Telling the truth? He wasn't an elite talent. How many AP'S or PB's Stevie have? Zero. He has 8 pro seasons with 4764 yds, a little over 3k in 3 straight with the Bills. Like Fred Jackson, he was a really good player that was fun to watch during the drought years. He was a very slippery cover. Why so serious?

The topic was/is "best release" off the LOS. In no way am I trying to 💩 on Fitz or make Stevie better than what he was. No one will argue Marshall, Evans and to a lesser degree Parker were better receivers. Just saying Stevie's release and improv route running was next level and if he had Josh (theoretically) would have put up better stats.

Reverse?

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The possession before that one on 4th and Goal. He ran a great route, but I guess Josh was too gassed and skipped the throw.

Stevie had that LOS Allen Iverson crossover in the NFL. His slippery shakes and head fakes were maddening on CBs. 3 straight 1K seasons with Fitzpatrick should tell you everything you need to know. I like Fitz, but c'mon. Imagine if he had Josh?