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This is a fair take. Having seen this dude so far (in camp...it's early...need to see games...but what we've seen has been very good) ....and having seen how many just crap jag nobodies go in round 4-7.....I don't know how teams, including KC.....weren't interested sooner than almost round 7. I get it's risky....so is taking Joe Snuffy from Northeast Wyoming Tech in round 5.

....when I say steal of the draft...I am not being a homer chearleader. The guy is going to make the pro bowl as a rookie.....he was drafted in the 6th round, 3 picks before round 7 started.

.....Trey Smith..... National media making the rounds through KC Camp.....all repeating the same thing. Steal of the draft.

This is technically correct......but essentially, at the time the Bills made the trade, it was with the aim to add ammo to get a QB in the 2018 draft. When that approached, they had X ammo available to manuever around and the intent of having that ammo, and the moves they ultimately made, were calculated with the idea that they had options available to them when the time came. Having that extra 1st rounder from KC factored into that quite a bit I would think.

I think the OP is meaning best trade ever in that both teams got huge wins from the trade....that rarely happens. From that perspective...this may well be the biggest W-W trade in history. KC got it's franchise QB, The Bills, even moving down to 27 in that draft, got an all pro CB, then the extra pick which helped to net them Josh Allen the following year...and Allen is a "Franchise QB" in every sense. Lastly.....Chiefs fan love Mahomes, and Bills fans love Allen. Neither fan base would trade one for the other....thats fine and again, just another sign of what a W / W trade this was. There isn't a need to seriously debate their talents...they are both very takented players....and very revered by the fans of the teams and accross the NFL. Mahomes and Allen are ELITE QB's. I am very happy for all the Bills fans...this is a great day for you and your franchise. I'm looking forward to many more KC/Bills games and also looking foward to rooting on Allen and the Bills when they aren't playing KC. He's great and fun to watch! Congratulations and....yes..GREAT TRADE.

I would say that it's a fun offense to play in for a QB....not so much QB friendly. Arians demands alot of long downfield passing. Even Brady was stuggling until he convinced Arians to run more of the shorter stuff Brady prefers.

https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1422943336042729476?s=20

1st day of pads for KC. Niang struggled VS Frank Clark in one on one pass drills. Orlando Brown struggled VS Chris Jones in one on one pass drills. Not a great start for the OT's today.......but Jones is said to have looked good VS everyone....as he should. Creed Humphrey looking good at C....no reason at all to think he won't start. Trey Smith (steal of draft) looking good VS everyone but Chris Jones. Noah Gray having some struggles...had been looking great without pads. We'll see how things progress. Willie Gay continues to shine. Accoutns from players, coaches and media all glowing about his coverage and speed. Nick Bolton, making plays now that the pads are on....defending passes, and a couple INTS so far.

you'll understand soon enough.

I believe this is a leverage play and they chose Austin deliberatly....knew it would get alot of traction, and seems feasable to alot of people. It's one of the few cities that would probably hapily build a stadium......just leverage.... As I said before....the NFL isn't interested in any more domestic movement....it doen'st help teh TV contract.

Austin or any other UNITED STATES CITY, makes ZERO sense as a destination for a team like the Bills. the reason why is twofold for Austin...and you all have the first one covered. Jerry doesn't need another Texas team treading on his territory....and Austin isn't all that far away from Houston...I am SURE they also don't want a team in Austin. But the more important and bigger reason is that NON NFL MARKETS get just as high of television ratings and NFL markets do. Moving a team into a market does nothing to bring in more eyes and more TV money (wich is where the leauge makes the big bucks) To that end, Jerry could care less if teh Bills were in Buffalo or Des Moines Iowa....the TV money is all the same no matter where they have teams now...you don't generate a single new dollar by moving to a new town. Those days are over. What would move the needle would be an NFL team in Toronto. make whatever case you want about that...but having one team in Canada...they become alot like the Blue Jays, where that is Canadas MLB team....and THAT would bring more TV revenue to the NFL having those new and additonal eyeballs on TVs. Anyhthing short of a move to a NON US MARKET, is just he Pegulas posturing and looking for leverage to get their building done.

Just take my word for it.... It is probably going to be Brown, Thuney, Humphrey, Smith, Niang. KC is going to have some roster cuts at OL that many outsiders will be surprised by. I won't be shocked at all if LDT deosn't make the team and then retires.

Please kindly direct me to a good place in the Dallas/Ft Worth Metroplex.

More ribs....fries.....BBQ beans. Beans are a big deal here.

Lol. No one in KC cares about slaw. Most BBQ places here don’t serve it. A rare few do make a Carolina style pork and slaw sandwich.

Miami should have taken Herbert...but the one thing they still have going for them is that they have lots of draft captial and can take another big swing at QB.

Count me as a Tua detractor. I don't see it.

Cool thread. Reminds me of what happens when you poll Kansas City folks about the best BBQ in town. You get this same type of debate. Anyhow...I really enjoy "wings" but I've never been anywhere near western NY/Buffalo and just like I am a Kc BBQ snob...I am sure whatever wings I've had in KC or Dallas/Ft Worth (where I live now) are not on par with the real thing from the region and the people who know them the best. So....couple quesitons. Does anyone know where I could find some good wings here in the DFW area? and 2....reading through this and see alot of mentions about Bleu Cheese dressing....never seen any place serve that with wings..it's always been ranch. As I read through this...I thought how until a couple weeks ago I didn't like Bleu Cheese dressing......but that's becasue I think I've been duped by people serving me ranch and telling me it's Bleu Cheese. I had a wedge salad at a high end steak place down here a couple weeks ago, that came with Bleu Cheese....when I saw it, I was horrified thinking I'd wasted my money ordering it...covered with crumbles etc...but I took a bite and my god....it was incredibly deliecious! Must have been the real thing I got this time and crappy ranch so many other times. so, I can understand about some of the stories here about that.... Anyhow....good place for DFW wings...I'd love to get a taste of the good stuff if I can around these parts. THANKS.

As a Chiefs fan who see's the Bills as the no.1 competition to get back to the Super Bowl....I hope that you don't get Ertz. Maybe he's not quite what he was...but I do think he brings more to the table than Dawson Know...OR even better for the Bills....would allow some double TE sets with Knox and Ertz that would be dangerous.....and my team hasn't been very good at covering TE's in recent years.

Yes. I agree. They aren’t in pads yet. Many a camp star fades once the pads go on. They aren’t in pads. I’m just talking about what there is to talk about and right now that is padless practices and scrimmages.

Chiefs camp update 7/30/2021 More glowing reviews on twitter and elswhere for G Trey Smith. (steal of the draft) Willie Gay Jr is said to have major leaps in his development...making plays all over the field and specifically in pass coverage, where he was said to need alot of work last year. Reports are he is sticking to targets like glue. Noah Gray...5th round TE out of Duke...reported that he looks awesome now....they really can't wait to see if it translates when the pads go on. Very high on him. Chris Jones is lean and chissled...and looks like he'll be almost exclusively playing at DE this year....earlier reports were he'd move out there from time to time...looks to be a full on position change at this point. EDIT: Forgot to add that rebuilt line is making very comfortable pockets for Mahomes....I am not putting alot into that one yet....need to see it in pads in game action this preseason before I get to excited about that. Niang did take reps with the 1's today.

I know. Lots of things can change. Unfortunately, I don't know what will be happening next week or the week after that... I'm just reporting on what happened as it happend and what was said. The O line isn't surprising, they've been talking about the new guys for the line in glowing fashion since the first rookie/mini camp. Some less positive observations from yestarday. S Juan Thornhill was running with the 2's. Dan Sorenson was with the 1's at S. That isn't ideal...hoping that changes as camp progresses. When Anthony Hitchens left the field to have a hammy/cramp tended to, it was not 2nd rounder Nick Bolton that came in to replace him, but instead Ben Nieman, who has been a hanger on at LB for the past few years and has played way more than you'd ever want a player of his caliber to play. Hopeful that Bolton works his way right on up the depth chart but today was not encouraging. It's very early.

To open camp today, Kansas City sent out the 1st team OL and that consisted of: LT Orlando Brown LG Joe Thuney C Creed Humphrey RG Trey Smith RT Mike Remmers The bolded are rookies. I've mentioned it a coupled times here and there since the draft. Trey Smith is going to prove to be the steal of this entire draft. Nothing but glowing reports on this guy since he showed up. Reid is usually not the biggest fan of putting rookies in the starting lineup...but even today on day 1 of camp, Reid gave yet another strong assessment of Smith. Of course it's still early, and I don't want to discount my Chiefs bias as I report this...so there is that...but being as objective as I can...the very early returns on the rebuilt line and the rookies on it....Smith in particular....is very good. 5th Round TE Noah Gray out of Duke is getting alot of attention and making alot of plays. Last years second round LB Willie Gay reported to have had a great day 1 of camp....and was out with the "ones"

I'm not disagreeing with that. KC's fans are concentrated around KC and we pick up a bit of SE Nebraska, SW Iowa. Not much of a region compared to others.

That's right....I had forgotten the Wyoming connection to JA. Northeast NON DFW Texas often gets Chiefs games for the same reason, as does Lubbock. Oklahoma City gets alot of Browns games for Baker.