Zerovoltz

The Super Bowl can not have 2 teams from the same conference play each other. 1 from AFC and one from NFC. The Chiefs and Bills are both AFC. The Chargers and Bills are both AFC.

I was here before and right after the game. Gave my thoughts before and after. Thought before and after that the Bills were/are the better team. It's pretty easy to see what I had to say about it. Been here along for the ride since before you guys drafted Allen. Was on the stage floor at the draft when Allens name was called. Took my picture with the late Poncho Billa while was there....been onboard here watching your team evolve....and becoming a fan myself along the way, having started out as kind of a troll. I'm here. I'll be here. Can't wait for many more Chiefs/Bills games to come. It's looking like the Bills year...don't know if KC has enough juice this year to spoil it ....if we can't...I'm rooting for the Bills all the way.

FWIW, I don't post on Chiefs planet. That place sucks.

I speak for most KC fans...we dont' hate you either. We like watching Allen and the Bills play football, but more than that - We are both small markets, both original AFL markets. Got very passionate fan bases that know what it's like to go a long time without winning...both have some really painful memories of not getting there, not getting it done. We are kind of intertwined by the trade that got us Mahomes.....and to a lesser extent, that led you to Allen. It was the rare WIN / WIN trade for all of us. We watched that game in the playoffs last year and ALL OF US...every KC fan was resigned to accepting a loss in that game and NONE of us felt bad about it...we thought we'd witnessed greatness even before the 13 seconds. If it can't be us, we want it to be you guys.

SEE ABOVE FOR MY ADDED COMMENTS Welp....that played out about like I said it would. Congratulations! ....rest of season will be about seeing if Bills can secure that 1 seed. Hopefully we will see you again in Buffalo in the playoffs! All in all...another enjoyable game between KC and the Bills. Disappointed Mahomes couldn't bring it home at the end.

I'm here....like I always am, win or lose.

I think this is correct at this point. Prior to this year, KC had Charvarious Ward and a mix of Sneed, Fenton, Breeland...guys who were pretty good at man coverage. Conversely, they had way too often, Dan Sorenson, Nick Nieman, and Anthony Hitchens playing S, LB and LB respectively. Those 3 guys coudln't cover TE/RB at all. That's kind of flipped. Botlon at LB, and Gay are good at covering backs and TE. GAy was out this game, but Darrius Harris as the backup who's been playing, has been good at it too. The secondary is in the midst of a major overhaul. You guys got to see it today, Rookie Corners and Sneed. Guys we were missing - McDuffie, the 1st round corner....got hurt early but had played well. Missing Gay. Missing Cook at S (who doens't start but plays alot) I am not making any excuses...the outcome would likely have been the same with those guys all in...the rookie corners aren't awesome but they do what they are asked in Scags system and as I said...he doesn't care....if you are out there, Scags is going to ask you to man cover quite a bit. It's a big ask for rookie 7th and 4th rounders. If anyone is interested, I'll give my thoughts on the whole thing in a reply to my pre game analysis.

I actually don't expect a brackett on Diggs. Spags expects dudes to handle their side of the field. Even rookie 4th and 7th rounders...who will be starting. I DO NOT expect McDuffie out there. He has practiced this week, but Ried VERY RARELY brings back dudes off long term injuries on one week of practice. I'd say at this point he won't play. Snead will be moved around the field and mostly play in the slot, whoever is there. I suspect KC won't roll coverage to Diggs or Davis..but give two high look and play it straight up, with Snead or even one of the outside corners being called to blitz a couple times during the game. I think you'll see a very steady diet of 4 man rush, with Bolton spying Allen. Spags will give some blitz looks and they'll almost always bail back. Going to invite the Bills to run. Going to try and force Allen to stay in place and pass. Jaylen Watson - Rookie 7th rounder starting on one side. Joshua Williams - Rookie 4th rounder on the other. They won't follow a guy, but will play a side for the most part....I'd start whoever will be on the outside between McKenzie and Shair.

I agree with this. KC made alot of mistakes and played bad football...no one error killed them, but all of them together sure did.

My wife is Vietnamese...been over there many times, but not to Hanoi. You aren't going to find a sports bar open at 3:25 AM local time. There will be a few establlishmenhts open but none will have NFL football on TV...if they have any TV's at all. Get to the hotel, get your WiFi password and find a stream. Crackstreamz usually works pretty good. If you have any other questions about food, customs, language, ladies....etc...let me know. I'll answer as best I can.

My whole analysis and Buffalo Chiefs preview: First...yes Chiefs pass blocking was bad. I did not know until the game started we would have no Trey Smith. The reason that matters for KC....as you can see, both of our OT, struggle wtih speed rushers. (like Von Miller!) ....this isn't new to KC fans...and has been a problem for a while. NORMALLY, KC while struggling with this and having to live with it and work around it...have been able to because the interior 3 of Thuney, Humphrey and Smith do well to keep the interior clean. Mahomes will step up into that and pass or slip out to the side and pass or run as the edge rushers get ridden around the back by our crappy tackles. No Smith tonight meant Nick Allegrhetti...a servicable, but JAG backup G, started, and he was getting walked backward most of the night...and as you saw, Crosby and Jones coming around the edge got to Mahomes often...he had no pocket to step into. Miller and Roussaue will be doing the same thing...the question will be KC's interior making a pocket or not. If not...the Bills pass rush is going to kill us. Smith, as far as I know was a gametime decision, and will be back next week barring a setback. Second. No Smith...didn't help in the run game. Smith means alot in the run game. He moves people. ...and they had no confidence to run straight ahead. KC did not call plays like they did with Smith VS Tampa's stout front....instead reverting to the worn out and mostly unsuccessful delayed handoff from the gun (I HATE THAT PLAY!) With Smith, they run alot more quick hitters, straight ahead, move the pile type runs...You might get the idea that I am telling you Smith mean alot to KC's offense. He's a big deal that isn't really nationally gotten noticed quite yet. Third. Spagnuolos initial game plan was to blitz Carr and leave Adams in single coverage. ....I would tell you that on the one hand, mostly KC got decent coverage, espeically when the rookie Watson was on him...but that doesn't matter much when you have a talent like Adams out there..he wins contested balls, and contests bad throws and draws well deserved PI penalties. I get the logic here...Carr usually crumbles when blitzed...the Raiders did a good job picking it up and it was pretty easy then for carr to find an open target single covered. To Spags credit...he realized that wasn't working and doubled up Adams the rest of the game...and Adams, being who he is, still juked double coverage and got a dime from Carr for that late TD. Fourth. I'd love to give you some explanation about how KC's third ranked run D got ran over pretty hard by Jacobs, but Jacobs has those type games sometimes where he just runs hard grinds you down. I did notice some bad tackling by KC defense...especially on back to back runs by Jabobs where Juan Thornhill, fills the hole and makes LOW effort, failed attempts at tackles on consecutive plays. Not good. The Raiders do have games like this VS KC from time to time. Not a great day for the run D. Fifth. Mahomes stat sheet looks nice for the game. 4 TD 280 yards or soemthing passing..no INTS...but he was bothered by the pass rush, and was uncomforable enough to miss plenty of chances when KC had dudes in man coverage. That's been a problem all year but masked because KC converts alot of 3rd downs and have been decent in the red zone. Too many big plays missed. Six. Kc has been missing Harrison Butker...our good, reliable kicker. It's cost points and Andy Ried calls plays wonky because he isn't trusting our street kickers much. not sure if he'll be back for Bills or not. KC, like good times sometimes have to do...win ugly games, overcome bad penalties and bad mistakes etc. so there is that. OK. Bills game. The Bills are a better and more complete team. KC has less margin for error than the Bills do. For KC to win - Need to get running game going downhill. That means we need healthy O-line with Trey Smith ready to go. If no Smith or limited Smith...won't be good for KC. If KC can not make the Bills respect the run, Miller and Rousoue going to make it a long day. KC will need no errors in kicking game....that is...if we opt for FG...that FG needs to count for 3. That's pretty simple on O...keep Mahomes upright...Miller and others will be problems around edge no matter what...it's pretty much up to the interior to give mahomes a pocket and room to escape..if we have that, offesne will be fine. On defense....contain Allen and make him throw. KC will need to have some pass rush success with just 4. They weren't all that great VS Raiders at getting there....If Allen stays clean, he'll pick apart the zone or just run for chunks. I don't worry about the Bills run game, but if that gets going we are done. For Bills to win, get at Mahomes...with just down 4 lineman if possible and make him beat the shell. Don't let KC get ground game reved up like they did VS Tampa. On offense...just keep whatever rush KC brings at Allen and force KC to stay in lanes. If no rush getting there, Allen can break down coverage and attack if he needs to rush. Don't make Turnovers that give KC short field and free points. Bills the better team, and should be favored. KC will need A type game and good game plan to win. Doable...but Bills best team in AFC so this is clearly hardest game left on KC schedule...winner gets huge advantage for the 1 seed. Alot at stake. Also...this would be a game that goes along way toward determining the MVP award. I'm looknig forward to it of course, but truly feel like KC is the underdog and should be.

I'll have alot more to say about the Bill / Chiefs AFTER tonights Chiefs Raiders game.....that said.... KC usually handles the Raiders. I expect KC to handle the Raiders. In recent seasons, the Raiders had been a matchup nightmare for KC....throwing often to backs and the TE's. KC's LB situation prior to this year was not equipped to handle what hte Raiders in those years did best. That isn't the case with McDaniels and the Raiders O this time around. The Raiders have also been able to run on us in the past. They won't tonight. D is much better suited to stop that. Raiders best chance, and what I expect, is steady diet of Adams and Renfroe. If they can get that going, KC will have to win a track meet. I don't see it that way. I'd bet the under, with KC running it down the Raiders throats, eating clock and having Mahomes eat them up on play action....winning TOP and turnover battle. KC 30, Raiders 15.

I should have put this differently. Speculate all you want.....what I was leaning to was that it's a little early for a solid line without seeing what happens Monday night first.

lets wait and see how this Raiders game goes along with any injuries that might come out of it before we go to far down the road of speculating on this.

I’m not blind. The bills are hot! seeiously. The Bills look like the best team in football. The metrics say they are the best team in football. It’s week 3 now. There isn’t any debate to be had about who is no.1. It’s the Bills

All offseason and on into this season 2 weeks in, nothing to say this isn't the Bills year. The roster is stacked, the signings and attitude...all of it is ALL IN. The NFC is weak. I'd say it's the Bills to lose at this point.

would you care to elaborate further about how what I posted is "nonsense"?

...you guys get the Jets twice. They don't have any key players.

This is coaching. Joe Lombardi is in over his head as OC there. He clearly only is capable of making a gameplan, at the direction of Sean Peyton, for old Drew Brees. They throw a bunch of short dink, dunk passes. WASTING Justin Herberts big arm and mobility.

I would agree that the INT overturned by replay, was the wrong call. That was an INT. the PI....that penalty is tough. Sometimes that one is flagged, sometimes it's not. Did the reciever initiate it? Possibly....but the point is...part of the NFL unfortunately, is that you can expect some bad calls. Sometimes they go your way, and sometimes they don't. And....sometimes, you just need to be lucky and catch a break to win a game.

I do. That doesn't mean the Chargers aren't capable of excellent football. they are, and they looked excellent, especially in the first quarter. I would say, it's not hard to find articles etc out there that document how they are very often less than optimal in their decision making and game planning, play calling etc. But....just as you observe some of what they do....their coaches too often make the wrong choice or opt for a suboptimal call. Herbert is now 16-18 as a starter. I think he's better than that record indicates and I think part of why it isn't better is coaching.

Good teams win ugly games sometimes. ....to put that in perspective.... The Jags beat the Bills last year. It happens. But perhaps a better way to put it... When is the last time ANYONE ever said "the Chargers won that game and they had no business winning it" ...you never hear that about them...it's often the other way around though. And...I'll reiterate this one more time.... when the interception happened, it was 17-17 in the fourth quarter. There were about 10 minutes left. The Chargers had to punt. The Chiefs got the ball back and punted...the Chargers had the ball back again with just under 6 minutes left, trailing 24-17. They ended up punting again. The interception return was the key play obviously, but the Chargers had TWO chances to drive and tie, and possibly win the game after that happend. The Chargers had 400 or so total yards. KC had 320 or so total yards. That stat was Even when the Chargers had their final drive...but by then KC was up 10 and KC was letting them have yards in exchange for running clock. The Chargers were only 5-16 on third down, but 4-4 on 4th Down.... The Chargers only rushed for 75 yards on 25 carries. That's 3.3 YPC. I'm not telling you the Chiefs are some juggarnaut, or that they don't get enough credit, but I am telling you the Chargers A) couldn't get it done in the 4th quarter and B) The Chiefs defense was a part of why they couldn't get it done. C) The Chargers are held back by crappy coaching. That's a strong roster.

It's too early to say you are wrong, but KC has a 1 game lead already with a division win in hand. For the Chargers to win the division winning only 10, that would mean KC is going to have a disaster in the last 15 games. KC would need to go 8-7 or worse in the remaining games, with one of those being a loss the the Chargers AND also finishing with a worse division record or other tiebreaker if they finish tied at 10. That doesn't seem likely. 1. one of the worst attributes of Andy Ried is he just doesn't like committing to the run, even when it's working...and you can couple that with wanting to be cute on short yardage plays where he calls very ill advised, low pct run plays when he either should just pass, or commit to a conventional straight line run. Either way...last nights game was NOT one of Andy's better performances as a play caller. 2. Kansas City has a good line, but the OT are both beatable with a good speed rush. Von Miller will be a problem. 3. The Chargers roster is stacked. They suffer from horrible, sub optimal play calling. Joe Lombardi doesn't know how to coordinate an offense without Sean Payton telling him what to do with Drew Brees at QB. Lombardi fails to utilize Herbert to his full potential. The Chargers are held back by bad coaching. 4. All 17 games aren't always going to be masterpieces. KC got steamrolled by the Titans last year, The Bills lost to the Jags. Both teams played at a high level (offensively at least) in a huge playoff game. Sometimes you need some breaks, and sometimes you need a defesnsive or special teams score to be the difference. 5. I've seen some saying that if the Chargers had scored the TD instead of KC getting the 99 yard pic 6, that would have been the ball game. .....It would of course been WAY better for the Chargers, but that happened when the game was tied at 17. KC would have been down 7, with the ball with like 8 minutes left in the game or whatever. You can't say that was game over. The Chargers as it were, got the ball back down 24-17 and didn't do anything with it.

Those teams aren't that good. The Chargers are. KC will be 5-0 unless Mahomes doesn't play in any or all of those.

I see the bat signal. I'm here. I haven't read over this entire thread...just getting to the internet since the game ended.... I'll say...not a good game by Andy playcalling. Mahomes frustrated by shell coverage and Joey Bosa getting there. Andy has a HARD time committing to the run even when it's going pretty well. The Chargers always give KC all we can handle. Herbert had been 2-0 IN KC prior to this loss. I was glad they missed the playoffs last year. I will say also, that this pretty much clears the way for KC to be 5-0 when the Bills come to town in week 6. I suspect you all will also be 5-0. Should be interesting.