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Deep dive on 2024 WR class - Beane’s analysis is in line with this
Mat68 replied to Big Blitz's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think most agreed after Top 3 wrs rest are all similar graded players. 5 people have 5 different orders of players. Wr picked in rd 2 is likley similarly graded or graded higher than the players selected at 28 and 32. They were favorites but both have lots of questions. This is the meat of the wr class. Rds 2 and 3 is the bulk of the class. I also heard some nuggets that over 100 draft-able prospects went back to college. Due to NIL they would be better going back to school instead of being late picks. With transfer portal and NIL starters make about the same as a low pick but may better their position for next year. I dont think Beane drafts a player after 160. Trading those late picks for earlier ones is just as important as getting that 3rd. I suspect Buffalo have 160ish draft grades. Rest are priorty FAs. I suspect those late picks are moved today or early tomorrow. Buffalo is going value. I suspect Dejean or Newton. I lean Newton because of a higher position of value vs Saftey. Than a combo of 2 wrs with the other day 2 picks. Maybe im wrong and they love Polk, Mcconkey, Mitchell and take them at 33. These are the same players discussed for weeks at 28 still available now plus a 3rd and multiple late picks improved by 40 spots. -
I think the gap between Dejean and Newton compared other S or DT prospects at 60 is wider than Mitchell or Mcconkey and Wr available at 60. Alot of teams picked a wr in rd 1. Probably expect them to go elsewhere rd 2. Beane very well could get a wr at 60 many want at 33.
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Yes. I wanted Worthy or Leggette. Buffalo did not. The 2 highest rated players available are Newton or Dejean. Most cases you are not exchanging players you picking. I think they asked offense or defense. Big or small. Sorry to break it to some but they are not drafting a wr at 33. Its Dejean at S, Newton at DT maybe Powers Johnson or Fraizer at C as a long shot. Consensus will have Newton and Dejean as the beat availble. 60 and 95 will be wr imo. I think 1 of them is Burton from Alabama.
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Newton or Dejean. If they were targeting a wr they dont trade with Kc or Carolina.
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Allen, Dawkins, Taron Johnson, Bernard, Miller, Ferguson set. than Cook, Knox or McGovern for the final spot.
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Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one
Mat68 replied to Logic's topic in The Stadium Wall
Ertz and Brian Johnson -
Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one
Mat68 replied to Logic's topic in The Stadium Wall
Besides the uniform and speed they are not alike. Goodwin never had more than 450 receiving yards in any of his for years. The combine speed list is a list of track of track guys that had little college production or at best 1 year. Worthy has been productive since his freshman year. On an offense with multiple top 100 picks Worthy was the guy. If he weighed 15 more pounds he would be a top 15 pick. Imo he got leaner than normal because he was chasing the 40 record. I think he will weigh around 175-180 during the season. -
Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one
Mat68 replied to Logic's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think the idea is round 1 impact player. Round 2 starter and round 3 role player future starter. Beane has made is money on day 3. He seems to have a good feel. His worst pick is Elam but imo Elam starts for half the league. -
Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one
Mat68 replied to Logic's topic in The Stadium Wall
True. I think in the heat of the moment he can talk himself into thinking that Vikes 2nd will be about the same as our 1st when we win the superbowl. -
Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one
Mat68 replied to Logic's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think a 2nd next year is in the chamber. If they can go all the way up next years 1 instead of a 2nd is in play. -
Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one
Mat68 replied to Logic's topic in The Stadium Wall
Manning. That said Marvin Harrison Jr has been a touted recruit. Been hyped his whole career and has met the expectations. That hype and pressure would fold a guy that wasnt it. Especially, now in the NIL about me culture. Seems to be like his dad. Out of the spot light hard worker. If your giving up a ransom you do it for him imo. Otherwise sit and pick our move to 19 to 23. -
McAfee Draft Spectacular Show Featuring Bill Belichick
Mat68 replied to wppete's topic in The Stadium Wall
As a football junkie the 30 mins from 730 to 8:00 will be a must watch imo. Bill Breaking down his board his way and what to expect Rd 1 will be interesting. Im a Pat guy and would watch either way. I think Bill uncensored on a live mike for 3 hours will change many peoples opinion of him. -
Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one
Mat68 replied to Logic's topic in The Stadium Wall
F them picks. If you make a massive move just go all the way. Get Marvin Harrison. Safest pick in the draft. If they are making a move all this talk about Udunze could be the smoke screen for trying to get Harrison. -
I think you get more out of edge at 60. Same ability to enter the rotation but replacement for Von Miller is more pressing than replacement for Jones. Having the ability to collapse the edge without leveraging the rush lane is more important in the NFL vs college. Trice, Braswell, Issac or Kneeland imo would be more impactful than fiske day 1 and a clearer path to a larger role in 25.
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Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one
Mat68 replied to Logic's topic in The Stadium Wall
Beane was a big body guy. Drafted Benjamin and trade for him. Brought in Andre Holmes. Soon realized that was not the best method and went with Jon Brown, Cole Beasley and Diggs. Need a guy that can beat man coverage and stress a defensive deep. The big body red zone threat should be Kincaid. Need a deep threat most. Thomas, Worthy, Franklin and Walker. Wildcard is Burton. I am 100% convinced that is why Beane choose Alabama's pro day over Texas, to get first hand intel on Burton. -
I work til 4-5 Thursday. Grill some chicken and be ready to go draft time at 730. Last 3-4 years I have become a non traditional draft watcher. Started with bleacher report with Lefkoe and Simms. This year with Buffalo picking late I will mainly watch the Pat Mcafee draft spectacular. Having Bill Belichick on a hot mike uncensored for the duration of rd 1 is a must watch for me. On the clock I will go to a national crew because I assuming Pat and boys will be way off the rails by than but would want Bill’s analysis. Days 2 and 3 exclusively bleacher report. Analysis and grade of every pick in real time. The ESPN and NFL network coverage becomes a variety show. Before having a full time job and a family I really hated the change from saturday and sunday. That was like the start of summer when I was college age. Now I much appreciate being able to see the complete first 3 rounds live.
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I dont see him as anything but the second 3 tech on the roster. Tough to draft a guy at 60 to be a back up. Oliver coming off a career year and new extension isnt going anywhere. His game doesnt really fit as a 1 tech.
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After everything all offseason. Im back to where I was when Texas beat Alabama. What would Worthy look like with a Qb like Josh Allen. His ability to separate while tracking a ball in the air deep is rare. Desean Jackson Randy Moss rare. Played all over the formation at Texas. He is a fast football player not a fast guy playing football.
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Lance Zierlein: Bills should draft 2 WR in the first 3 rounds
Mat68 replied to Beck Water's topic in The Stadium Wall
Makes sense to me. If the guys they deem first rders are gone trade down. Pick up a third. Beane has a handful of guys he likes. Wont know until draft night how the order falls. -
I think Llyod at USC would be a target with a 4th or 5th. May go earlier but if a back is sticking out day 3 I think Buffalo takes them.
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I would take Isaac or Braswell at 60 over Bishop. I think either guy can step into a full rotation at edge without a drop off. Possible for either to take the other edge spot of Von doesnt perform.
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Availability is your best ability. He has all the tools but has yet to complete a season. Smaller guy often injured is not an ideal combination.
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Kraft hurt Belichik's chances at becoming the Falcons HC per NYP.
Mat68 replied to Gregg's topic in The Stadium Wall
Kraft seems like an ass. The doc was a smear campaign on Bill. Not wanting Bill to get hired and win elsewhere is petty. Kraft believes Brady would have won another Superbowl in Ne and Bill ruined it. Reality is New England didnt have the roster. -
I would rather flip edge and safety. Go edge at 60 and safety at 163. I do not see much difference in the safety prospects as a whole to draft one at 60. Im not depending on Von to bounce back at his age. I think you need to add guy ready for snaps immediately. Edwards and Rapp is an ok pairing. Im not sure there is a safety in the class better than either. Not looking for elite traits for the position the need to invest a day 2 pick seems unnecessary.
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Sounds like a team wants him to slide to them. Fluid guy with plus hands. Best games vs best competition. I think he is very much a possible target at 28. I would than question what player available at 28 wont have a level of risk? If they were clean prospects they would be top 5 or top 10 guys.