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Shorter is a traits guy who could be a core special teamer and maybe develop into a Hollins type player and career. If he struggles on teams his career will end abruptly. My point was they already had that player on the roster with Shakir. He passed both vetrans brought in. It was on Shorter to pass Sherfield which he was not able to do. Thats why you mix veterans and rookies. Without Sherfield, Shorter is on the roster and would have been a disaster imo. Lesser the route runner and special team player.

They drafted Shakir in that range the year prior and is going to be a big part of the offense. He passed both on the roster last season and positioned for a primary role. Id argue if Diggs was injured similar to Kupp and Watson Shakir would have made a much larger impact last season. Nacua and Wicks production was tied to injury creating the opportunity for increased target share.

This. Main thing is the Bills feel comfortable with Kincaid as the primary read and focal point of the passing game. Shakir, Samuel and Coleman will be Wr getting most of the target share. Buffalo feels comfortable with this. They like Coleman and Shakirs potential. The Superbowl Champions primary weapons. Kelce, Pacheco, Rice, Watson and MVS. Kincaid, Cook, Shakir, Coleman and Samuel is much worst? Kelce is turning 35, Rice missing time, Hollywood Brown, and Worthy doesnt blow your doors off. Buffalo does not have the top skill grouping in the NFL. In its totality they are middle of the road.

Only roster locks are Coleman, Samuel and Shakir. I think Hollins and MVS are safely ahead of the rest. Shorter, Shavers, Hamler, Isabella, Cephus and Claypool all have unique paths to the roster if they maximize their roles and ability. Not overly inspiring but bottom 3 roster spots will be more highly contested than in years past. Harty, Mckenzie, Sherfield haven't faced this level of competition. All three would be lumped in this same group and would struggle to separate themselves.

Buffalo paying 1/3 the price for the role he played in KC? Bad how? Kc paid him to be there wr 1 or 2. Buffalo is paying him to be wr 4 or 5

Rasheed Rice is significantly better than Shakir, Sanders or Coleman? I dont see it.

When you compare it to Baltimore and KC it is fine. Kincaid needs to improve and will be the primary pass catcher. Then you have Shakir and Sanders with Coleman growing into the role. More he can do the more he will get. MVS, Hollins, Claypool, Hamler or whatever camp body you want to add will make up the bottom of the room. MVS and Hollins made a career out of this role in a wr room. Like most positions on the roster under Beane. Hollins and MVS are the floor. If any of the boom or bust guys boom they replace either. This is not Zay Jones, Andre Holmes, Kelvin Benjamin and Charles Clay bad. Very much NO Saints Prime Brees vibes. Kincaid in the Colston/Graham role. Coleman can frequent the Michael Thomas role at times. James Cook getting an expanded role in the passing game like Bush and Kamara. Now where in the NFL did Brady get his coaching start? New Orleans under Sean Payton.

Probably not. Has the athletic profile but no elite production. Was on the offense with a top 10 Qb prospect and didn't really produce. Maybe he puts it all together. More likely he is an elite trait core special teamer.

MVS is a deep threat. 15 plus yard per catch for his career. He isn't a potential star but a solid role player. I think it fits the offense and adds an element missing. Those plays in the playoffs are what he would be brought in for. Shakir, Sanders, Coleman, MVS, Hollins. Claypool, Hamler, Isabella, Shorter and Shavers look for 1 sport maybe push for Hollins or MVS spot. Compared to KC and Baltimore it is plenty good enough.

Hated this guy on ESPN. Terrible analysis just protected the refs in the worst ways. Only the worst teams did this. I feel like this has to be the Jets?

Maybe it was yours in April. Thought I saw something similar on twitter.

Games he was active for he usually started. Benford and Douglas are the incumbents. Im not inclined to change that. I think Elam is perfectly suited as the outside backup. With Johnson thats 3 outside and slot. Open spot behind Johnson on the roster and maybe spot if a guy has outside inside flex. Jemarcus Ingram, Cam Lewis, Deontay Hardy competing for like 1 roster spot maybe 2.

I think the difference may be that Davis never improved his efficiency. His 50-55 catch percentage was the same when he got 63 and when he got 95. If Shakir shows a slight regression from 87% to 79% that is still an improvement for the offense. If Shakir gets a similar increase Davis saw from 21 to 22 that is 95. Thats 75 catches for roughly 1100 yards. Ayuik in year 3 got 115 targets for 78 catches and 1015 yards. Shakirs last half of the year and playoffs were similar to Ayuiks 2nd season. I think the team will see if Shakir can handle the volume. Similar to Cook last season. If he does that resources can be invested or added next offseason without giving up picks.

Poles is still the GM. He was very vocal that any trade with Carolina would involve Moore. Moore is viewed at the number 1.

If Mccargo was a 3rd rd pick his career would be perceived different. 6 year NFL career but didn't meet his potential. Sounds like numerous 3rd rd picks. Trading up for him in Rd 1 was the problem.

If you make the swing it is for Ayuik. Young productive player. With big play ability. He would cost a lot to trade for and pay.

Gregg Cosell and Chris Simms. Using them because they are the known film watchers out of the media talking heads. Both said last season teams stopped playing Diggs like a top 10 wr. They were not double teaming him or worried about him getting deep. Shakir will be defended differently but is versatile to be moved around and may or may not be the primary read on any given play.

I think this is the best way. If the offense clicks with the young guys no need to make that size of commitment to the position. With Miller aging and Douglas on an expiring deal I think the hold there assets for a need. If the offense needs a boost and wr is a hole pull the trigger. If they can find cheap weapons they use those resources elsewhere.

With Chiefs V Ravens I can see Buffalo V San Fran as another primetime game. They could go 49ers v Lions. Still think Texans Bills is a primetime game early in the year.

Think of what Emmanuel Sanders was mixed with Mckenzie. Samuel is very good historically vs man coverage. Runs a full route tree. Also, in college was the Percy Harvin role in Urban Myers offense at OSU. Can line up in the backfield and take handoffs, jet sweeps or any creative way you can think of. His best season was with Brady in Carolina. Over 800 yards recieving had over 1,000 scrimmage yards including his rushing. He isnt a superstar but capable number 2 wr with speed and comfortable running the ball. I think there is a correlation in your belief in Shakir, and perceived need to trade for a proven Wr. Like you I think Shakir is prime for a break out year. I dont expect Buffalo to make any splash moves because of this.

This is the chart I saw early in the off season. You can see what Buffalo is doing. They are creating the offense around Shakir, Kincaid and Cook. All of them in there first or second years. They caught the ball and produce with 3rd 4th 5th targets in the offense. Went on their run when they were larger pieces of the game plan. Obviously, Shakir may see a dip in efficiency but I don't see it falling off completely. Samuel, Hollins, Coleman all fit in around them.

Wr is getting similar discourse as Linebacker last season. I think Shakir has the chance to be top targeted Wr in the offense. In Allens career that player had alot of success. Brown, Beasley, Diggs all had career years with Allen. I think Shakir has a year similar to Browns 2019. 70 plus catches over 1,000 yards close to 10 TDs. Benard stepped in and on day 1 there wasn't much a drop off from Edmunds. I think Shakir has the same effect on the offense. Will have a shockingly small drop off from Diggs.

Josh Allen is a weapon. Sneaks at an incredible high rate. I think you use Allens running ability late as possible. Playoffs, Division, or seed purposes. I can’t think of a reason to call a designed run before the first snowfall of the season. Use Davis, Johnson, Cook whoever before than. An occasional sneak sure. Allen scrambles sure. Allen power right on 2nd and 7 from the 35 no thank you.

Fourth and goal from the 1. Give me Davis any day of the week over Guerendo or Brelon Allen. I assume by size and speed those would be better choices? In a vacuum size sure its better. Neither were great at it in college. Davis excelled at it in the SEC. Davis is the better all around runner without the extra rocket up his ass. If Davis was as big and fast as either Guerendo or Allen he is a fringe first rounder. If Allen or Guerendo were Davis size and speed they may go undrafted. Singletary is an NFL back. People can be scared because of Singletary and Moss but both have proven to be solid NFL running backs. Imo Davis is better than both.

Cook , Shakir, and Samuel are all good options for the screen fame too.