Mat68

Lol my 4th DE in Madden. Good Height, Weight, Speed. Outside of him in the game dont know much. Imo brings more to the team as a pass rusher than Yarborough.

What source who supposedly ranks college players for a living has Harry as the #1. I'm asking because I haven't seen one. He is not terrible. I like him. I see him as a day 2 player. The guys I like more you see an extra gear, and they are more fluid in their movements on the field. It may be taste but that's the way I saw it. After the positional rankings came out many saw it the way it the way I do. Harry on day 2 isnt bad. I wouldn't like trading up for him. The difference between Samuel, Aj Brown and Harry isnt severe enough to make that kind of move.

He wont make it out of rd 2. I would be all for it. He is a 3 down back. Low tread with him sitting behind Barkley.

Alot of it is projection. He ran maybe 3 routes at Ohio St. Basically, with how fluid an athlete he is, Simms feels he will easily take to a traditional route tree. Alot of other draftnicks see him and think Percy Harvin. Even that comp, if Harvin didn't have those migraines and the hip problem he was on his was to a good career.

Hes not going to threaten the outside CB deep with his speed. NFL corners will run stride for stride with him. His best work in college was underneath. The worry is the corners will sit down on those routes. Now without the physical speed and quickness advantages his route tree will have less room for error. Makes more a tougher transition. Not impossible just a concern. Splitting hairs on these guys for sure.

I trade down for a vetran Pro Bowler. Clowney, Clark, Julio Jones. Besides that, I stay put and draft quality over quantity.

With the vertical passing game Buffalo wants to employ, having a guy catch passes just past the sticks is crucial. Beasley, will quickly become a security blanket. Having a guy who will get open at the hitch of a 3 step drop will do wonders for the offense.

Foster was undrafted for a reason. He had a good showing the last half of the year. Still an elite deep threat with Allen is peanutbutter and jelly. They just go together. Brown imo offers more in terms of gadget plays underneath aswell. I've cooled on Brown some with the Jon Brown signing, but he had some of the best seperation consistently of any wr coming out.

Your the only one saying he is the best wr in the draft though. Many places question his ability to routinely win outside in the pros. Harry at 40 wouldn't be bad. There are a few guys who have elite traits imo. Harry is good at alot of things, but I do not see anything as elite level.

At Dt? Lawerance or Tillery.

I will get behind any weapon brought in for the offense on day 1 or 2 of the draft. Who is available at 9 is the question. Oliver, Gary, Sweat, White could all be an option. They could all be gone too. Hockenson looks like a solid TE. Do you draft solid at 9?

One thing I've come to respect about Simms is he watches guys without prejudice and makes his lists.

Campbell isnt my first choice. If they went Hockinson or Fant I could see going Campbell as a real option in rd 2. Idk how the draft falls, but a guy who can take any play for 6 and forces the defense to play horizontally adds to the offense.

Agreed. That not really what he is. Drafting him to be that would be a mistake. Looking what Buffalo has outside and where they lack? Buffalo's offense needs a playmaker. With Mccoys age I'm not sure he is still that guy, even giving him a pass for last season. Second, press man who can win? Beasley shown in the past to be able to do that but hes the only one. As a rookie imo Campbell could offer both to the offense. That could be a TE.

Im not advocating for it, but some analysts love Josh Jacobs. The player comp they feel he is, a more powerful Alvin Kamara. Same out of the backfield ability but more value between the tackles. If Buffalo see it that way too are you ok with it with him being BPA? BPA is all fun and games until you take a RB in the top 10 who ran 4.6

To say he cant do more because OHio St didn't ask him to isnt accurate either. Basically, Campbell ran the shallow cross or whip route all game and consistently ran away from NFL talent DBs at a remarkable clip. At worst in Buffalo you have a freak athlete doing the gadget stuff McKenzie did last year. Similar to Tareek Hill or Tarik Cohen a matchup nightmare. Best case he can develop into a deep threat that Hill has become and be a true threat anywhere on the field. Foster and Brown outside Campbell motioning across the formation puts a ton of stress on a defenses principles. Doing so makes humans make split second decisions on guys with 4.4 speed. Looking at the offense used late last year Campbell surely would be able to be utilized. Just doing what he did in college would make a difference. I think his movement is special to be taught a full route tree to develop into a complete Wr not just a gadget player.

Developmental back. Seems to have soft hands. At his age, there isnt much time to wait for him to develop. The exemption makes it as low risk as can be. With Gore and McCoy he could pick up alot fast.

On the defensive front in college it happens more than you think. They are concerned about winning not really concerned with a players production. In passing situations Oliver rushed from the nose more than any top tier Dt in the draft. More so than even Dexter Lawerance.

The ability to play with Ferrell and Lawerance vs other collegiate lines is hard to quantify. Put Wilkins at the 3 tech, Ferrell at De and Lawerence over the center good luck. Not the same as facing Houston with Oliver over center with some college b level talent around him.

This is the exact reason why they have the combine and pro days. His athleticism is rare and freakish. He was not a small time recruit that came out of nowhere either. Big time colleges were after him. He wanted to play as a freshman and be close to home so he pick Houston. The coach at Houston used Oliver to garner the most attention to essentially have it be 8 or 7 on 10. In terms of fading down the stretch of games? That's due to constant double teams. In the NFL he wont doubled a third as much. Look at it the other way. Clemson, Alabama and Mississippi st lines were loaded. Even the top guys Wilkins, Williams, Simmons. How often were they doubled let alone tripled??

They retooled their poorest positions. Beasley was the best slot wr availabe, who gets open quickly underneath. Brown was the best deep threat available. Pairing him with Allen makes sense. The Oline was terrible. They added the best center, and 5 veterans who could either be the starter or main backup. After all of that they can get out of almost all those deals after 2019 or 2020 at the latest. Sitting at 9 they can do whatever they want. Auction it for a vetran Probowler. Draft a probable impact player. With the surplus of day 3 picks I would imagine they use them to move up to get more players day 2 or another one in the first. Until the draft has played out it's hard to say they have no plan. Whether it's running back, dline or weapons for Allen that leaves more to be desired, they all could be corrected.

As an undersized Dt, he was asked to play nose tackle. Heads up over the center. The offense double even triple teamed him all game. He is a perfect 3 tech. Utilize his rare speed and quickness to penetrate by lining him up in gap of the guard and tackle. Seemed to me Houston used him to take up as many blockers as possible, while still asking him to make plays. When he was allowed to rush from non-nose positions he rank near the top of the class.

Neither. I dont see either prospect as a top 10 pick. In a draft high on talent I think there are impact players at numerous positions who will be available at 9. Taylor or Willimas are strictly need based picks in the top 20. The difference between them or who's available at 41 wont be significant.

What's you definition of quickness? Metcalf had one of the best 10 yards splits in the last 10 years? He wont run many option routes out of the slot, but outside he can run the go, comeback, post, slant and deep in and be effective doing it. His burst and speed shows up on screen. I'm concerned about the guys who are less explosive that didn't seperate in college.

A motivated Darues was special. Things happend on and off the field that has kept him from matching that form again. He didn't get a 100 mil contract because Whaley wanted to burn money. Years 2, 3, 4 he was a fantastic player. No way to tell how a 25 year old man will handle 20 mil checks.