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I can't help but feel for guys like that. It's a bit like Norwood - those "so close" moments that don't pan out. I'm sure athletes are wired differently, but I'd be a mess w/ stuff like that.

They could have had the next Matt Ryan. Who happens to also be playing tonight.

Jones is too overhyped. ESPECIALLY by this announcing crew. Game manager - at least so far. I would have taken a good game manager at any point during the drought, but it's not fear-inducing.

Hey! This thread got a mention on one of the Pats boards. Apparently, we're having a meltdown. I'm always melting down. So, there's that.

Teams self-destruct against the Pats. Every time.

Brilliant throw by Jones! To a receiver that had no one within 10 yards, while he had all the time in the world in the pocket! The next Brady!

Objectively, in 2 full decades, I have never seen a NE game where I felt like they got the short end of the officiating.

Everyone on the Patriots does their job. You could almost make that kind of a slogan for them.

This game is going to be aggravating to watch, isn't it?

It should be the blueprint. I feel like O-line should be our strongest unit now that we have Allen at QB. Protect that man, and he'll make things happen.

Folk is having a year. Of course, he's no Tyler Bass.

Did they just say BB is going to be coaching for a LONG time?

In all of the NE games I've watched - I almost never see anyone get pressure on Jones.

I wish they'd make him throwing the phone on the sideline in the 2nd game against the Bills last year part of the montage.

Fair enough, and if I overreacted, all apologies. We really only have 2 Pats fans who post here (that I'm aware of), and I appreciate the contributions generally. Sometimes I see what I'd call humble bragging, but it's actually kind of challenging to be objective when it comes to anything Patriots or Patriots-fan related these days. 20 years is a long time, and most Pats fans that I encounter in real life become like cartoon characters when the conversation moves into anything sports-related. I have no real reason to doubt what you're saying. In general, I'm tired of the Patriots, I'm tired of BB, and I'm already tired of the Jones hype. It colors my POV.

Of course that bothers me - if it happens. I don't get why Pats fans come here trying to convince Buffalo fans that they're back & Mac is just going to keep it all going. Is it possible to still be insecure after the success their team has had? I post on other team's board, but I'm mindful of basic etiquette. I can be all homer here, and overhyping Bills players - but I just wouldn't do it on a rival's board, or really any other board.

Who is "doubting" Mac Jones? According to Pats fans, he is already as good as Brady and in the HOF with another 6 Lombardi's. According to ESPN & the rest, the AFC East had one non-Patriots year, and now it's over. Mac Jones is the most hyped QB I've seen in decades.

I mean, I love his game - but who cares what Mathieu says about Mac Jones?

I've heard "Yankees suck" at Bruins game. I've heard it at Celtics games. I've heard it (of course) at Red Sox games, even when they were in the World Series. I have always wondered why they do that. I mean, the Patriots ARE in our heads here, or at least some of us - but I'd be embarrassed if our fans chanted that anywhere except for a Bills/Pats game. And of course - BB is going to have that team in contention as long as he's there. The hype is a bit much right now, but if they continue winning it's warranted.

These kinds of threads get comments on the Pats boards. Their fans generally say something like "we live rent free in their heads." Then, they go to a Bruins game and join in a rousing crowd chant of "Yankees suck!"

I wish I felt that way. I actually realized when Brady left that it was more about BB & the fans there. I didn't mind Brady at all once he was in Tampa. Boston sports in general is a nemesis for me, being a Yankees & Knicks fan also. Their teams have had such enormous success over the past 20 or so. The fans are cartoonishly arrogant - which I suppose would happen to any fanbase, but it's still annoying.

None of those QB's has BB - which is much better than having any kind of #1 receiver. I think any of the top 5 QB's would be performing just as well this year had NE drafted them, with the possible exception of Lance, who is a true project. Mac's play is being incredibly overhyped right now. Mainly because he's on the Patriots, who are the new Cowboys in terms of 24x7 sports news coverage and hype. Mac hasn't done a thing yet.

It's bad - but I thought we'd be seeing these announcements every other week. If it's just one player here or there, the Bills should be able to overcome that.

Goalpost move. You were comparing the accomplishments of Brady and Rogers based on what kind of QB each is. "If KC didn't have a defense he would not have won a ring?" I don't even know what that means. What SB-winning QB would that not be applied to?

Um....coaching? Better team construction & organization? The bolded is hilarious. He's 26...and he only has 2 SB appearances and 1 ring? Golly.