Success

It's the NFL, so you don't take anyone lightly. But we're playing a team that is currently in 3rd place in their division behind the Bucs & Panthers, and will probably be fighting for a WC spot in late December (if all goes well for them). If we're not able to beat a team like that after the kind of loss we had, we're likely not nearly as much of a contender as many here & elsewhere think we are. I happen to think we ARE that team, and will be playing in the SB. I think we're giving Atlanta proper respect, but let's not overhype their chances tonight. I believe they only win if we do a repeat of last week and lose the turnover battle, mixed in w/ some lopsided officiating.

This is the year to really go for it. We have very, very clear needs. If this deadline passes with a whimper (either no move, or some usual depth move), it won't look good for how serious this FO is.

I used to kind of root for KC. Smaller market, bad luck, kinda like Buffalo in some ways. Weird to think about now.

Honestly, that really was ridiculous. It was a disservice to both teams. That game never got in a rhythm. Officials should NEVER take over the game like that.

This speaks for me. It's all I'd ever want to say on this topic.

I've seen too many QB's have games like he's having for a few weeks. And that's what we're talking about - a few weeks. Maybe I'm in denial, but I see a lot of hype based on people needing the Pats to be a villain again. Let's see a few 4th quarter comeback drives. Let's see a 300 yard game. He has done extremely little for the wild hype he is getting right now.

It's soft - I think technically, the softest in the league - but except for Carolina, that team plays to the level of their opponent. We do too - but we're much more seasoned than they are. They could lose to the Browns, Falcons, Bucs, Giants, Ravens (with Jackson back). They didn't even sweep the division in their Brady years most of the time, so I'd even throw a Jets or Phins loss in there.

We'll have around 5 guys playing in a month or so that haven't been playing. More injuries can happen, but that's a significant percentage of the roster. I really think Beane has be be aggressive at the deadline. Someone like Olave would boost our odds for the SB very significantly.

It's a very deluded fanbase. Sometimes, I feel kind of glad I don't think the way they do. Too much success...

He's better than Mac Jones. But he's still mostly hype, imo. I just watched the highlights from today. It almost reminded me of Tua when he first had Hill & Waddle. I get that the Pats receivers aren't at that level - but they were as wide open as those guys can get, and a couple of times they had to slow down to catch the ball. Allen so rarely has guys that open, way downfield. Maye looked solid, but they hype is over the top. He'll have a "pump the brakes" game soon, imo.

I thought Strong looked really good when he played, and then there is Hairston, who we haven't seen. In my dream scenario, both of those guys are playing by mid-November, and playing well.

If Allen stays healthy, we win the division by 2 games at minimum. It will be an important game - but I'd give the Pats a 7-8% chance of sweeping us.

We don't scheme WR's "open" like some OC's seem to be able to. The Pats guys were wide open throughout the day. The one positive today is that the Saints lost, making them more likely to trade a guy like Olave. Who we should be aggressive about going after, imo.

It'd be kind of funny if the Pats lost after all of the hand-wringing about them today.

The Saints haven't had to punt much today. The Pats defense played one of their best against us. Annoying.

It's funny how Pats fans look at it. They dominated w/ no competition for so long - they think that's how it is, and once they win the division again, they'll do the same for years. It's more likely to settle back into what some divisions are like - competitive, back & forth, no one winning for too many consecutive years.

People are falling apart on this board. It's more PTSD than anything. I think the Pats and Maye COULD be a threat in the future - but they've had 2 good weeks so far.

Maye looks really good - but he's also had it pretty easy today. Guys are wide open. Any team out there can give the Pats a game - let's not talk like they're all of a sudden head & shoulders above us. Any team on our schedule can give us a game too.

I really don't get it. Has Glenn not seen Tyrod play or something?

They really just need one more first down - but that seems like a tall, tall mountain for this Jets offense.

I'd be furious if I was a Jets fan. Does Fields have any passing yards this half?

Tyrod has always been so underestimated. To me, it's a no brainer decision for the Jets. They have a guy on their roster who is demonstrably better than Fields.

38 yards passing heading into the 4th. That's really somethin'.

Including on their own team. They should really start Taylor.

Gotta say - it's still a little weird to me that the Jets are winless. They have a fair amount of talent on that roster.