Success

Way too early to evaluate. His best game was the Super Bowl, and so much of that was after the game was decided. And I don't think any fan thinks we'd be using him the same way the Chiefs are.

Sports fandom is a weird thing. Your team can win forever, but it's never enough, and you're never happy.

I mean, we did make the final 4 in a year where some had us as a WC team, and some had us missing the playoffs altogether. If Josh wanted to leave this kind of situation, it would be a bit Diggsy.

Josh defies every expectation. He's a hardcore competitor. He's going to have longer than that.

I would.

It's a good point - but it's also not entirely fair. Are we content w/ that one decision, which keeps us in the mix every year? We need to set the bar higher. Beane has to do better. I'm tired of watching Allen carry this team like a massive weight on his shoulders, while Mahomes can get away w/ average play and his coaching and defense carry him to title game after title game.

Kind of made me sad reading this. It's not wrong. And "McBean" isn't BAD. But they're not great. They're pretty middlin', and without Josh Allen, we'd have probably made some changes. If we win a SB, it will be more than 80% Josh.

Bold prediction: KC does not win the division in 2025.

I love Cook, like we all do. For most running backs, you kind of take the rookie deal & move on.

I thought Bishop looked really good at times. I think we can go w/ him & Rapp heading into the season. There are other areas that need more attention and money.

No McDermott - his defense. There just comes a time when you have to say that the general schemes we use are not working. We criticize our personnel a lot - and we have few "star quality" players on D - but generally, it's a solid group. I have always felt that someone like a Saleh could come in and make this defense stingy & tenacious. I can't even characterize a "McDermott defense" except to say that it's just soft. We play that soft zone, and don't really press or present much aggressiveness. I'm hoping that he can really turn the reigns of the D over to the DC & other coaches on defense. We need an entirely new philosophy.

I still see Elam as a guy w/ a lot of talent, who was drafted onto the wrong team because of our scheme. While any good player should be able to adjust to a new scheme - what we run does not play to his strengths. Maybe he could pan out much better in a new system. I'm really hoping that's what we have in mind w/ this move.

The line was definitely MVP - they don't do that though, right? If they can't do a whole unit, Hurts was the right choice. He had a great game, passing & running, and making key plays all night.

I'm really looking forward to this thread being bumped periodically for the next decade or so.

I think the psychology of invincibility surrounding them played a big part of our last game, especially since we had already lost to them 3x in the playoffs. I think the whole world was kind of like, 'oh - we can actually beat this guy & this team' last night. I think it could have some longer-term effects, and with their division getting tougher, maybe it's the start of a new era. Hopefully our era.

They actually pushed.

I can't recall seeing a top tier QB play as bad as Mahomes did in that 1st half in a SB or even a playoff game. He really looked pathetic.

As others have said - we would have scored earlier, and more, and given them more of a game. But we would have need a big break or 2 to actually win. Possible, but Philly probably beats us 7-8x out of 10.

Tonight helped.

Can you even imagine this guy if Allen had a game like this in the playoffs?

Defense wins championships. We have NOT had a championship defense. Beane has some work to do.

It was a little bit healing to watch this. Maybe we would have won - the game is all about match-ups, and I think we would have scored more than KC. But watching this, it just felt like Philly was ready for this game, and that this was their year. We probably do end up losing. And man, would that have hurt to lose a 5th.

Maybe. I wonder how Worthy would be on our offense. I doubt he'd have the same impact. Gotta see how it plays out. Coleman has an entirely different skillset - he could still emerge as a top tier target for Allen. Maybe we'll still think it was a bad trade, but today it looks more lopsided than it probably is.

Only downside is Pats fans celebrating that the KC dynasty didn't eclipse theirs, and that Mahomes didn't get a one up on Brady. But I'll take it.

This game can be filed under "good for my soul."