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Thank you. I'm getting ripped on here to say the offense hasn't been consistent in the playoffs.

So we have a poor offensive line and really bad WR's? How have we been among the league leaders in scoring? How have we outscored the Chiefs in the last 5 seasons, when we have had, how you're explaining it, one of the least talented offenses in the league? The Chiefs were LOADED with offensive talent and still behind us. So it's either the players that are better than what you believe or the coaches are better than what many believe.

Does it really? Once you retire from football and if you need money, you can't get a job?

One of those 24 point games was the Chiefs AFCCG. We scored on a TD on a muffed punt recovered at the 3. The other offensive TD was 4 minutes left in the game when we were down by 38-15 and KC had their starters on the sidelines. That's about 40 minutes in between TD's and it was garbage time. That was a bad offensive performance. I think you can demand your offense to be at the same level as it was in the regular season. Look at the information below. Chiefs averaged around 23-24 ppg this season and playoffs. Last year, playoff offensive production was 38, 23, 27 - 29.3 ppg. 29.2 regular season. 2021, playoff offensive production was 42, 42, 24 - 36 ppg. 28.2 regular season. 2020, playoff production was 38, 22, 9 - 23 ppg. 29.6 regular season. 2019, playoff production was 51, 35, 20 - 35.3 ppg. 29.6 regular season average. Allen wasn't an elite passer in the Texans playoff game but we had one offensive TD all game. Didn't scored 3 points in the second half. That's struggling regardless if he's a second year QB or not. Especially since the Texans weren't very good on defense. At some point when you see the Texans climbing back, you got to respond and we didn't. But yes, the defense was also responsible for the 2nd half. Yes the weather was bad. But Diggs went 8 for 106 and a TD and John Brown went 8 for 62 yards. So we had some ability to move the ball in the air. I still don't think 1 offensive TD is good even in that weather. Not to mention the Ravens were able to rack up 340 yards of offense to our 220 and they also dominated TOP. The difference in that game was the Ravens were 0-3 in the redzone and one was a pick 6. Bengals game...bad offensive performance.

I was just about to say this. You will hear it on the board all the time that a player like Matakevich is a wasted roster spot. How has he lasted 9 years? He lasted in the NFL, longer than Stevie Johnson just to give a comparison. If we lose Josh Norman....is that a clear sign of tanking?

Okay. I will believe the best players and teams step up in the big games. You can believe the best teams and best players are supposed to struggle in the big games. I think you're just being stubborn with that statement because I actually don't believe you mean that. Because why then have you criticized McDermott's playoff tenure in Buffalo? The Bills are supposed to struggle right? My theory is BOTH units are responsible. I have said that more than once but you keep alluding that I only mean offense. I will say it again, BOTH units. If you think you are refuting my theory by saying the best teams are supposed struggle in the big games, then you haven't refuted my theory. Again, in 4 out of our 10 playoff games, we scored 15.6 ppg in those games. You seem to be arguing that offensive performance is fine because I guess....you're supposed to struggle? Seems to be.

The only thing I feel sorry for you is your statement "you're expected to struggle in the playoffs". Come on dude...you know that's not correct. Am I only arguing offense? When I said both units are responsible for us not getting to the Super Bowl, did you think "both" meant just one and that one was offense? What would 15 ppg rank us in those 4 games?

40% of the games the offense has struggled. That isn't sometimes. Our regular season offense is between 27 ppg and 32 ppg. In 40% of our playoff games, our offense was 15.6 ppg. That is not acceptable. You are expected to struggle in the playoffs? Sorry, that's a pretty ridiculous statement. The playoffs are supposed to be harder but that doesn't mean struggle. You are expected to struggle if you're not good. Why are such things as playoff disappointments if you're expected to struggle? If you're an elite team, you're expected to step up when the lights are the brightest but you're going to argue you're actually expected to struggle....come on. Both units are responsible for not getting us to the Super Bowl. For some reason, that is driving you crazy.

So weather games, we should expect 10 points a game with Josh Allen at QB? Weather will affect it but to say weather will affect it to the point where one successful offensive drive is acceptable, then we have problems.

Yes, there is actually one but we're not allowed to use that game. We beat the Ravens 17-3 but that game has to be thrown out for this argument. I can say the same thing about other Bills bad performances too. It wouldn't have mattered what our defense did against the Bengals, the offense was doing nothing. It's both ways. It's not the talent, it's the consistency. Our offense has been talented enough but the production hasn't been consistent in the playoffs. Not enough where it's a one and done tournament. We are top 3 scoring offense in the league since 2020 and we did it without talent?

I don't think you're allowed to throw any game out for stats. Our first TD was a muffed punt that was recovered at the 3 yard line. Our next TD was 4 minutes left in the game when we were down 38-15 when the Chiefs entire starting defense was off the field. You thought our offense wasn't bad in that game? If we are going to throw out an entire game for whatever reason, can I throw out that muffed punt so the Bills actually scored 17 to skew the stats the other direction or something? Garbage time and having the ball at the 3 on a turnover isn't strong evidence our offense played well or even decent. Our TD's were 3 quarters apart from each other....that's not a good performance. If you are throwing out games to skew stats, using garbage time and comparing different AFCCG from different seasons, you're not going doing a very good job of proving it's a crazy take. This is the definition of moving goal posts. I have not said it's equivalent. I have said the defense has been bad. All I'm saying is the offense has laid too many eggs too. 40% of the playoff games, our offense has sucked.

Beasley was there in 2019. I know Allen was raw but 3 points in the second half.... I know it was windy in the Ravens game but I still don't think 10 points is a good performance. We put up 23 on them in the rain 2 seasons ago against just as good a defense. We played poorly all game outside of one drive. But should we expect a FG to tie a game when you have the ball deep into Chiefs territory with a chance to win it? That's a big moment that they didn't step up.

I'm not sticking up for the defense. They have played poorly. But in a one and done tournament, our offense has not showed up too many times but avoid criticism for some reason.

Are you really saying consistency isn't an issue with our offense in the playoffs? Since we average 26.9 ppg game, does that mean our offense played well against the Chiefs in the AFCCG, Ravens Divisional game, the Bengals divisional game or the Texans game? In those 4 games, our offense averaged 15.7 ppg. It's really a crazy take to me to say the offense has struggled too? That's 40% of our playoff games where our offense laid an egg. You're not winning it all with that lack of consistency in a one and done tournament where the minimum you have to win is 3 in a row. Do you really think that makes sense? 24.8 ppg in the post season making it equivalent to a regular season ranking? The level of competition is the same or something? Want to talk about a crazy take.

Yes the defense has had some bad games in the playoffs. But so has the offense. In 2019, 16-0 at half, scored 3 points in the entire second half against the Texans. The 2020 playoffs, 1 offensive TD against the Ravens. Laid an egg in the AFCCG again the following week. The 2021 playoffs - great The 2022 1 offensive TD against the Bengals. 2023....what were your expectations against the Chiefs in the divisional round? You were going to beat the mastermind offensive play caller Andy Reid and the greatest start to an NFL career in Patrick Mahomes with both starting linebackers out in Milano and Bernard, our back up in Spector also out and Christian Benford? Our LB's were our strength...both Milano and Benard were playing at All Pro levels. If the Chiefs were missing Nick Bolton, Trent McDuffie and Justin Reid....what would be your expectations for our offense in the AFC Divisional game It's not really fair to just criticize the defense. Both units haven't showed up consistently.

You're being a little dramatic Happy. We don't need the #1 offense. Only 5 teams ever have won the Super Bowl with the #1 offense. I don't think there is a QB in the history of the NFL who ever had a top 10 offense every year. Not even Brady.

I hear he's a fatty.

He may have had strong confidence that he would be there with the second trade.

Damn dude....this is a major F up. Some people don't have the ability to think inebriated. I made this mistake a few times when I was in college and younger....just because I didn't want to pay $30 to get home and then have to figure out how to get your car in the morning. As a dumb kid, you are willing to risk it. But to have it all provided for you....come on dude.

If I can afford an Uber, so he can he.

You know who has a lot of sex? Field mice.

You bring up very good points. But to play devils advocate….defensive players are much faster and athletic today. Today’s Linebackers are as fast as safetys in the 80’s and 90’s. We run more cover 2 today than back then taking another slower LB off the field. Allen has to avoid bigger, stronger, faster and more athletic defensive players. Allen also has something Young and Cunningham didn’t….power. Young and Cunningham could run by and/or elude you…so can Allen but can also run through you. Also…jump over you. Name another who could do that. You don’t see the huge hits as much today not because they don’t hit as hard, it’s because the player safety is more of a concern now. Bigger, faster and stronger players hit harder and that’s more dangerous. Headhunting today is a stronger missile hitting. You put a PSI measurement tool, I guarantee these players are destroying the players from the 80’s and 90’s. Atwater and Lott included. They hit hard back then, its not now. Its physics…bigger faster object.

He also said something else not in the article.... " I am faster than Keon Coleman". Dude may not make it out of the airport when he comes to Buffalo.

Its the summer time....he's probably at Macy's buying a jacket right now. It be cheaper.

If there was the internet back in 1920, there would be people complaining how football is greedy. "Can you believe how much the Bears were sold for?? $.75 for a PSL is ridiculous!"