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These are my last thoughts and I need to stay out of this page for awhile. I thought after a few days, my emotions would have died down but they haven't. I'm still very upset. There wasn't a person on the planet that I admired more than Charlie Kirk. I didn't agree with everything he said, mostly I did, but not everything and it never made me change my opinion of him. The left says they want to be heard too. Well, he did that for you. He gave you a microphone and an audience of millions and millions all over the world. Charlies content hit the world. He let you speak. The topics he debated are subjective so you technically can't say he won the argument but he won the debate. His arguments were stronger and made more logical sense which is we he had a growing movement. And that's why he was killed. He couldn't be fundamentally broken down in a debate so you used name calling, threats and now a bullet. I can't unsee this image of him getting hit. It is the most horrific thing I have ever seen in my life and I will never forget it for the rest of my lives. I didn't even know the guy and it caused me pain. What's causing me even more pain is my level of pain so miniscule to what Charlie's family is going through. If I'm having a tough time, what are they going through? At some point in the next few years, his daughters will see this video. It's the internet, it's forever. One day they will be scrolling and they will see it. I can't imagine. I have more compassion for PTSD soldiers now. I knew it was bad but I got a little taste of what you guys see, I really hope you guys are getting the help you need. You saw close friends going through this on the battlefield, I can't imagine what you guys go through after. I have only voted once in my life, for Obama when I was living in Los Angeles. Haven't voted since, I just didn't have interest in politics. But I know what I am now and it's strong....I'm not walking in. These videos I'm seeing of his death being mocked, I can't stop seeing them. I don't want to see them but there's so many that you can't. If your narrative is so strong that you don't even consider the families grief, your narcissism is overflowing and your compassion is at zero. I know it's just the 1%, many of my friends are blue and they don't do things like this. But the 1% is loud and that's creating stereotypes and we can't be blamed for it. You stereotype MAGA all the time. I hate that my best friend is a very strong liberal but he's respectful. I haven't talked to him about this because I'm scared to. I'm 99.99% sure he will say its tragic even though he's anti-Kirk. But I got this tiny little thought in the back of my head that what if he tells me he celebrated it....I don't want to think that. I'm not asking for sympathy, it just kinda sucks that's how the world is though. I did see a guy who was an old HS friend do the fencing pose of Kirk being shot on his FB....I do feel differently about him. So these are my final thoughts. I'm going to stay out of the PPP thread for awhile. I have too much emotion and probably not healthy to stay on here.

Its being ignorant on purpose to continue a narrative but at the highest level.

You are so pathetic that its actually dangerous. You are saying a sex scandal is every bit the same level of a man being murdered in front of his kids and the left celebrating it. Did you know there accounts of people encouraging more murders. If more people will die, you will come back on here trying to downplay it and find something else to go after the Right. This was very low. You are just a talking narrative. You are not the tolerant side. Im done with you.

You really do believe this is worse than what happened to Kirk. Or at least at the same level. What are your thoughts on Kathy Griffin’s severed Trump head?

Who is creating the crime? Is the crime being created by mostly conservatives? You’re drinking right now right?

Kirks rhetoric is only offensive to the ignorant, sensitive or the narrative driven. He converted 4.4 million people from Left to Right, specifically the younger age group. It’s because they had common sense to see what is really happening. Then the Democrats constantly and I mean constantly called Trump and Kirk a fascist. Both had assassination attempts and one was a direct hit. Tyler Robinson believed Kirk was a Fascist. Where did he get that idea from?

There is nothing more stupid than calling any Conservative you don’t like a fascist. Its like you’re a repeating exotic bird. Do you know what an example of fascism is? Killing a political opponent.

Left killing the left in Red States means its a Red State issue? That means the lunatic conservative that killed the Minnesota Lawmakers is a left issue because it took place in a blue state….if we use your philosophy. Whats going on in Minnesota where they can’t control a left wing killing? First, I was using Miami as an example just to show you how stats can be skewed. Second, I wasn’t referencing just the crime issue in Miami the last few years. They were blue since the 80’s with a recent flip. Miami has always been a high crime area, especially in the 80’s. Here. Dispute this. Here is a map from the FBI showing the most dangerous cities in the US. 99% of them are blue cities. Blue politics. The reason the state has a high crime rate is because of the blue cities. Do you not understand context? https://www.axios.com/2025/08/15/homicide-rates-highest-blue-cities-red-states Jackson, MS #1 and its a big democrat area. But you blame the Conservatives? You can only blame if its a Conservative controlled city in a Conservative Red state. They control everything.

Its incredible that you believe this is as bad as what happened to Charlie Kirk. Or maybe that’s not a painting, that’s actually Biden. So then it would make sense. I just said the same thing. But he honestly might think that’s really Biden.

LOL Im going to use negative Democratic numbers to make the red state worse. We both know where the crime is coming from. We both know the statistics. You just don’t want to admit it. Its the reason I can walk down my city at any point but I can’t in south side Atlanta. What’s your guess? Am I going to be jumped and robbed by a bunch of conservatives? Its not the conservatives who are creating most of the violent crime in Atlanta and Atlanta is the biggest crime area in the state of Georgia. Its not the conservatives that are killing the people in Chicago. Its not the conservatives who are creating most of the violent crime in Miami. But blame the conservatives. Miami’s crime problem is because of gangs and drug/narcotics violence. None of which are conservatives. But since Florida is Red, its a Red issue lol? You guys are zero accountability party. Like Chicagos Mayor blaming Conservatives for their murders. Not even taking blame for the city being absolutely broke.

This is just complete BS. Georgia is a red state but Atlanta’s crime gets included into those stats and skews data. Im out right now in the northern suburbs of metro Atlanta. I will walk down these streets all by myself at 2:00 am no issues. I honestly have never heard of any murders here. My local police station has never had a Cop even shot in its history. Do you think it would be smart of me to do that in south side Atlanta neighborhoods? Its the most blue part of Georgia which you said is safer. Zone 5 I think they call it averages about 150 murders a year. Which is safer? Look at city and not state data. Including a blue cities crime stats in a red state to make the red state look worse is driving a narrative.

Yes they Dems do a great job with policies that improve the lives of every day Americans. You can walk down the Democratic Controlled city of Chicago at night. Policies that let 14 time criminal offenders on the streets to kill people. A Judge that didn’t pass the bar or have a Law Degree. They want that person in charge of violent criminals. The streets of LA, San Fran and Minneapolis are just beautiful and clean. Would you walk on beaches in San Fran without shoes? I have friends that live there and tell me not to. Would you?

No. It wasn't poisonous nonsense. You just didn't like it. He gave the opposing view a microphone and an audience of millions and they still killed him. He let them be heard and they killed him.

My dad is a registered Democrat but is the biggest MAGA supporter you can find. Georgia is an open primary state.

There is absolutely zero and I mean zero evidence he had radical left views. Which party believes there are more than two genders?

Does this mean we have to have 72 bathrooms?

Biden. How many genders are there?

Here's another question. Do you think the family would rather have him die by lethal injection or beaten and tortured to death? I'm going to assume that you picked lethal injection because it's humane. But being in prison, especially at age 22 with all those years ahead of him.....being brutally beaten to death or tortured is on the table. Especially at his level of fame he is at. Those parents will have to think about that every day. That's not bad trauma? Is that not an acceptable enough trauma for you?

Nope. I said that prison for life would also be significant and horrible trauma. That is your platform that you can't put that family through trauma. So to combat that, you downgrade that trauma to fit your narrative. Basically saying it's not that bad, the bad would be him executed. They're both very traumatic. That shouldn't be the determining factor.

This is pretty wild. You get to determine grief and trauma of something you're not going through and will never go through. That is absolute narcissism. I mean wow.

Pretty easy call to determine the acceptable of level of trauma for a parent?

41% of Republicans find abortion acceptable. Its in the same link you provided. That goes against Christian principals. Why aren't you accepting that abortion can be both? Clearly it is.

Did you purposely not post the poll where it said that 41% of Republicans find abortion acceptable?

I'm not sure why you would have this thinking at all.

Oh so you're going to determine what level is acceptable trauma for the family? You determine if the trauma is far less. He could be killed at any time in prison and that's not really that traumatic lol. Not to mention, he could be BRUTALLY killed, much worse than the electric chair. Jeffrey Dahmer was impaled with a broomstick. I'm a parent and I can tell you that my world would be upside down if my child at 22 would be in prison the rest of his life. Are you a parent? But you're going to determine what level to process the trauma. Or just invalidate it completely and believe your opinion is objective. Nice.