Royale with Cheese

If you own stock in artificial grass….sell.

You’re completely ignoring the major issue and context. Its not that Allen just had turnovers, its how he had the turnovers. If he sits back and makes the wrong read and he’s picked a few times, yeah it sucks. But when he’s bailing early from pockets and throwing it downfield for no reason into double coverage…yeah that shouldn’t happen, especially twice in one game. Then he fumbles the snap, tries to pick it up and run without looking to fumble again. Come on. Stop box score evaluating and understand context. Allen is getting killed in the media for being wreckless and immature….they’re not wrong. So yes, seriously.

The Cowboys are playing them this week and I'm pretty sure you're going to see Dak throw at least 35 times. So will KC and the Chargers and the Dolphins.

That was Jason Campbell.

I was at that game. I was on the other end of the field for the Hail Mary attempt. I couldn't see the play and had to rely on the crowds reaction to make sure it wasn't caught. That 4th down TD conversion was the loudest I ever screamed at a Bills game.

It was the most confused I've seen from him since his rookie year at the Packers.

If you live or die by one way, you're not going to survive. Miami seems to be either a juggernaut to a juggerNOT <----pun The Bills don't have a big speed element and have been a top 3 scoring team in the last 3 years. It seems we do have open WR's as well with our play design...especially underneath. I wish we could go to a more methodical approach. Our best game last year offensively was the Rams game because it was a good balance of short and long.

Having one gripe about someone doesn't mean it's his entire body of work. His game plan was fine Monday night, it was Allen that destroyed it.

The Chiefs remained at the top of the NFL in scoring without Hill. Yes and the Dolphins are extremely inconsistent in scoring.

The one thing I have a grip about with Dorsey is Allen is very successful under center and play action. We only ran that 14% of the time according to Joe Marino. Why not run something more when it's incredibly successful?

If it wasn't the very first game of the season, it would be logical. I remember you saying the Bills offense was "exposed" after the Steelers opening day loss in 2021. Was that logical thinking being that they finished 3rd in points at the end of the year?

But that's not the point.

So he did and acceptable job. And water isn't wet. Wet is what happens when water touches an object.

Why didn't you answer the question? Where did you learn to break down film in the trenches? I didn't say experts. You don't need to be an expert to understand at the basic X's and O's level. If you played offensive line at HS level, you understand how to break down film as an offensive lineman. Some people do it as a hobby because they study it. This isn't some sort of rare ability. I played WR so I've never had to break down film inside the trenches. So since I don't know, I don't pretend I know. So I rely on guys I trust know what they're looking at. Videos are posted in this thread and posters who understand the game are commenting on it. That's where you and I differ. You hold onto a thought and that's it. You don't learn anything being so stubborn. So yes

Yes he's coachable. Just because he falls back into bad habits doesn't mean everything about him is uncoachable. He is a significantly better QB that he was his rookie year.

You don't know how to evaluate and passing it off as facts....got it. Just out of curiosity, where did you learn to break down film in the trenches?

So you're perspective is putting your players in harder positions to succeed is less of a concern. White was covering two gaps. As a coach, you want that?

Okay. We will disagree. I will be in favor of the opinion on people who know how to look at film.

I focused on Oliver all night. At the snap, I wanted to see what he was doing. I guess it's because I was a little hard on him in the prior years, he signed his big extension and I guess I want to see if he's going to earn it. I did like what I saw from Oliver MNF. I really can see us being dominant when Von gets back, Rosseau can slide inside on passing downs and Floyd is the other edge guy.

Bills fans emotions are so extreme. Either sucks or a God....no in between.

I was focusing on the point that Shanahan wanted that and why he invested so highly in Lance. After he got Lance, he saw he was terrible and got rid of him,. Shanahan would salivate over Allen IMO.

You are coming up with your own way of calculating something and then labeling it as a fact? I trust people who actually understand the game and knows what they are looking at. That's not you, no offense, it's not me either. Bernard wasn't great, but was okay. Nope.

The alignment is the bigger issue. White, who should have made the tackle, but was also put in a tough spot covering two gaps in that instance.

Kirksey going to start when healthy or do you think Bernard stays?

Shanahan traded multiple first round picks for Trey Lance who isn’t a robot.