Another Fan

Thank God about Shady. It's time though to learn to get closure on teams. See how they fare

So far, this has all the makings of a 3-0 game

Appetite killer

Only thing I can say to defend this is back in his hay day here he would have gotten absolutely mobbed by fans. Plus he wasn't the biggest guy to begin with so maybe he was afraid of being trampled

In the Down & Drought series the guys announcing the show pretty much alluded he was a d-bag as well but again they don't have one legit story. Just Rob was real laid back and Doug was more manipulative and they didn't get along.

Thank You. He was only 22-9 as a starter here, led us to the playoffs the last time we made it, and got screwed by management. Yet fans here want no part of him. Sometimes I wonder if we deserve what we get.

Would really like to see this happen someday. Making right a lot of wrongs in the past. If for nothing else then imo addressing the genesis of the drought. With new management maybe both parties will be open to this someday..

Agree no doubt. He knew how to maximize CJ and especially Stevie. He was probably my favorite HC of the past 20 years as a person. Unfortunately his defenses were another story

Haha, with this logic now the opener will be a win/win situation.

Well I don't think we're gonna dominate the Jets. But I wonder when the realities of the season sets in will I still be okay with tanking, assuming it's the best thing long term

If that's so, when was the last time we were ever favored by that many points?

I always liked CJ. Still remember that kickoff return against the Pats in 2010. But unfortunately for him it wasn't a matter of the Bills just not knowing how to use him properly if he bounced around so much. Still don't think Marrone did him any favors.

I like what I read in the article. As someone else mentioned it'll take time to win if there successful. How long of a leash are fans/managment willing to give?

Good tune

Married With Children

Frank Reich Jerry Ostroski Steve Christie Pete Metzellars Jim Richter Kent Hull (R.I.P)

They are/were tonight. Does anyone actually care? Katy Perry seemed to be one of the few people I recognized on the list of performers/presenters there. I mean MTV hasn't showed videos in ages

Was Levy the last coach during his tenure that hadn't really had some type of front office issues?

Sometimes I wonder if it's still karma for starting Rob over Doug. Ralph wanted a return on his investment, imo it really hasn't been the same since

I wonder if these boards were around in the 80s and early 90s how many Kelly vs Reich debates would come up

+1

They made the playoffs 3 years later. The Dolphins went 1-15 in 2007 and then 11-5 the next season. My point is Id rather suffer through the embarrassment of going 0-16 one year with a chance of really improving versus continuously being 6-10 year in and year out

Well I'd rather us go 0-16 one year and get a #1 pick and completely re-structure versus going 6-10 forever which seems so after the last 10 years

I was the type of fan in the past that was real happy winning any game. Games like the 2009 snow storm Week 17 against the Colts, week 17 in 2012 against the Jets, week 17 in 2014 against the Pats, and week 16 in 2015 against the Cowboys. This was because I couldn't stand those teams and it would still make me happy seeing the Bills win. I never liked purposely tanking. But I mean at this point I'd rather just see a 0-16 season then continuously spin our wheels at 6-10/7-9.

Well I'm sure you can find highlights from that game on YouTube but maybe not the whole game itself. Andy Provin is very very good at posting Bills stuff. You may want to check his channel there. I don't think the whole game will be on his channel but he posted a lot of times the ESPN highlights from the season with Chris Berman. You may be able to see some of it there for 1990