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Scary bunch... Secondaries are trembling with fear

Knox is not special in any way and is ridiculously overpaid. He scored 9 tds one season because he was Josh Allen's main RZ target but he's scored a total of 13tds in his other 4 seasons, 3.25 per year. He's gained less than 400 yds in 3 out of his 5 seasons and has never gained over 587 yds. He made over $14 million last year and gained 186 yards with 2 tds. Probably not the best endorsement for what you're selling. People had good reason to question that 3rd round pick imo, and even more reason to question that extension.

The article says " they added speedster Gabe Davis" 🤣

Davis hit the 4th highest top speed among all college rbs last season, 21.7 mph vs Florida. People don't think of him as fast but only 3 rbs ran faster. He ran for 280 yds that game and won me $ on FanDuel. 🙂 This guy is a legitimate 3 down back and will not be pigeonholed as a short yardage back. He'll be able to sub for Cook on any down and run the full playbook.

Hate to burst bubbles but the narrative that he has fast in-game speed and that he is a beast at contested catches is not supported by the data. His contested catch win rate of 45% was 11th among prospects. His top in game speed of 19.6 mph was 15th. Even though he has good size, he's not good at beating press or single man coverage either. I'm not saying he won't be good, I'm just saying that these assumptions many are making were not backed up on the field. If they were not strengths in college, expecting them to be strengths in the pros seems completely unrealistic.

These are the top speeds hit by the top prospects during last college season from Reel Analytics Colemans top speed of 19.6 mph, he achieved during a punt return, was the lowest among the 15 wrs they posted. Ray Davis with the 4th highest top speed for rbs of 21.7 mph vs Florida

Those speeds are from running those route drills in shorts at the combine. Not in game speed last season. Reel Analytics tracks and posts top speeds in game each week of the season. Coleman's top speed in game last year was 19.6 mph, last among the 15 wr prospects the article covered.

Where did you read that? His top game speed last season was only 19.6 mph Here's a list of the top speeds of the top prospects. Coleman is last among the 15 wrs they posted.

You can blame Diggs for being the same guy he's always been but the Bills knew who he was; and still they put themselves in a position where he could damage the team. Giving him the large guaranteed money extension with 2 years still left on his contract was an unnecessary, self-inflicted mistake; especially with Allen about to sign his huge 2nd contract. That contract with the 2 years left would have expired after last season. A perfect time to move on and $31 million more to spend winning a SB this year. $31 million more this season could have made a big difference in their chances. Instead they have the biggest non QB dead cap hit in NFL history. Blame Diggs for being himself ...but Beane and the Bills should have known better, they did this to themselves.

He had the 4th highest top in-game speed among all college rbs last season, 21.7 mph vs Florida. For comparison, Coleman's top speed last season was 19.6 mph

I see a lot of fans are labelling him a short yardage back.....Davis hit the 4th highest in-game top speed among all college rbs last season, 21.7 mph vs Florida.

Brenden Rice had the 5th highest top speed in college football last season and nobody says he's fast. He scored 12 tds and avg 17.5 per catch and nobody wanted to draft him. That is mind boggling to me. Troy Franklin with the 2nd fastest top speed and his 4.41 40 at the combine was a disappointment.

More data from Reel Analytics from 2023 season College Football’s Fastest Players: Most Appearances at 21.0+ mph Trey Benson, RB, Florida State: 3 times Dylan Edwards, RB, Colorado: 2 times Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State: 2 times Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon: 2 times Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas: 2 times No other player has hit 21.0 mph or higher more than once in 2023.

Fastest in game top speeds for rbs wrs in the draft from '23 season:

Clueless "We need to get more explosive"... Ya right

I'm just wondering why teams think he isn't any good. He looked impressive the few games I saw him play.

Rice avg 17.6 yds and scored 12 tds last year, #1 target for the #1 pick in the draft....he's also Jerry Rice's kid and nobody wants him? Not even worth a 6th round pick? Puzzling

Cmon Take Rice

Coleman was 11th among draft wrs in contested catch % at 45%. Not sure why everyone keeps claiming he's great at contested catches.

These are the only guys who topped 21 mph more than once during 2023 season Harrison Franklin and Worthy the only wrs on it College Football’s Fastest Players: Most Appearances at 21.0+ mph Trey Benson, RB, Florida State: 3 times Dylan Edwards, RB, Colorado: 2 times Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State: 2 times Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon: 2 times Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas: 2 times No other player has hit 21.0 mph or higher more than once in 2023.

He caught 50 of those targets, not 85. That's only 57% of his targets....good drop % though

Your Shorter comparison is beyond ridiculous. Shorter never gained more than 580 yds in a season or scored more than 3 tds. Franklin was one of the most dominant wrs in the country, gaining almost 1400 yds with 14 tds. His yprr metrics are elite across the board, vs press, single, double, zone You don't like his route running? He is clever and deceptive and runs a full tree attacking all 3 levels. He's one of the better route runners in the class.

Troy Franklin was a top 3 wr recruit coming out of high school, rated higher than every single wr in this draft. Joe Brady was a big fan and tried hard to get him to LSU. Franklin's college career reaffirmed that he was one of the very best. If he had been healthy at the combine he would be off the board already imo. I consider him a top 4 wr in this draft and would rather have him than Thomas, Worthy, Mitchell, Legette, etc. I hope he's the target

Franklin was a top 3 wr recruit coming out of high school, rated higher than every single wr in this draft. Joe Brady was a big fan and tried hard to get him to LSU. Franklin's college career reaffirmed that he was one of the very best. If he had been healthy at the combine he would be off the board already imo. I consider him a top 4 wr in this draft and would rather have him than Thomas, Worthy, Mitchell, Legette, etc. I hope he is the target

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