transplantbillsfan

Gotta love that Buffalo always ends up in these games

Ummm... it's not Joe Schmoe who votes for MVP. It's guys who pay attention across the league, like Peter King, who is one of the voters. Here's what he just said in MMQB: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/19/chandler-jones-raiders-immaculate-reception-peter-king-fmia-week-15/ This is by far the toughest week I’ve had in the divining of the MVP. The top three could be in any order, and number four could be number one by season’s end. My list: Jalen Hurts, QB, Philadelphia (13-1). Takes what the D gives him, and on Sunday in Chicago, the D gave him the run. Hurts ran for three scores, and the Eagles, two games clear of the NFL field this morning, won by five. Patrick Mahomes, QB, Kansas City (11-3). Four more TD throws and 477 more passing yards than anyone in the game, and his 87.8-percent completion rate Sunday is the best in history for a passer with more than 40 attempts in a game. “If he’s not the MVP, I don’t know who is,” Andy Reid told me. “He took a whole new group of [receivers] and got them ready to win. Think about it. Who are we going to in the passing game? [Travis] Kelce. Now [Mecole] Hardman’s hurt. Then who? They’re all new. Patrick worked all off-season to get those guys ready and look at the results.” Josh Allen, QB, Buffalo (11-3). Played a masterful game Saturday night, coming back from eight points down in the fourth quarter as Buffalo basically ended the race in the AFC East by beating Miami. Allen has a great sense of when to hang in the pocket and when to scramble.

Probably. But that doesn't mean they should. The actual thought process when all statistics are relatively similar among the candidates (as they are right now... and Josh may close that gap more) is how much of a drop there would be for the team if that player were taken away. If that's the benchmark, Josh wins.

Nah. Not necessarily bad games. Average would do if Allen replicated his performance last night 3 more times. If Allen plays lights out to end the year, he should win the MVP regardless of how Mahomes and Hurts play, even though I understand that's not realistic.

Please tell us the lottery numbers, soothsayer.

Sorry just getting back into my own thread... but how in the heck do you NOT view Josh Allen as one of the NFL MVP frontrunners at this point?

Holy crap I made it after getting last place last year! It's only a 10 team league, but I'm 5th place right now. Burrow, Chase and Mixon have carried me in varying weeks. My biggest disappointments have been Gabe Davis and Kyle Pitts. I actually dropped Pitts and picked up Hockenson.

Tom Brady had 6 games below 90 in 2017 when he won NFL MVP. Cam Newton had 7 games below 90 in 2015 when he won NFL MVP. Lamar Jackson had 4 games below in 2019... NFL MVP.

Are we saying Allen has been bad for 1/3rd of the season so far or he's been bad for 1/3rd of the total 17 game season? Allen was "bad" for the Packers game, the Jets game, and the Vikings game. During that stretch he had 5 TDs, 7 turnovers, and averaged 324 yards per game. In 2017 Brady had a 3 game stretch with a Passer Rating in the 80s or below and threw 2 TDs, 4 turnovers, and averaged 262 yards per game. In 2015 Cam Newton had a 3 game stretch where he had 6 TDs, 7 turnovers, and averaged 268 yards per game. That's as far back as I went, but the answer is yes, because both of those players turned out to be league MVP.

Trending on Twitter. I think anyone who can't accept Beasley back at this point is just being stubborn. I was totally wrong about him leaving and me thinking we'd be fine with McKenzie. Bring Beas back and let him teach Shakir how to find the soft spots in zones, please. It's sad but at this point I think we could be living in a weird back to the future timewarp where our top 3 WRs would be Diggs, Brown, and Beasley. Davis is questionable as a #2 at this point, Shakir just doesn't have the chemistry built up, and McKenzie is just his wildly inconsistent self. If anyone wonders why I keep the Josh Allen MVP thread going... just look at his weapons outside Diggs

Ummm... we aren't

Here are the 4 obvious QB leaders for MVP in terms of all the important stats: QB1 4181 yards 63.8% Completion % 32 TDs 15 TOs QB2 4440 yards 65.8% Completion % 35 TDs 11 TOs QB3 3919 yards 68.1 Completion % 32 TDs 11 TOs QB4 3843 yards 68 % Completion % 32 TDs 5 TOs I don't think it's too hard to figure out that Josh is QB1, Mahomes is QB2, Burrow is QB3, and Hurts is QB4. Didn't put team records in there, but obviously Hurts is the #1 seed in the NFC with the best record in the NFL and the Bills are the #1 seed in the AFC. I bring those up because historically that matters. Probably also matters at least a little that Mahomes has lost to both Allen and Burrow. So yeah, just looking at those 4 QBs, one would probably say Mahomes and Hurts are the 2 leaders, logically. But neither are running away with it right now, especially not Mahomes. I actually think the fact that Burrow, Allen and Mahomes all play each other will be at least a small factor along with the ease of schedule for the Eagles. So... Allen is behind. But in his next 4 games he plays the Dolphins (who Josh historically owns and puts up gaudy numbers), the Bears (who are allowing the 4th most points in the NFL this season at 25.6), the Bengals (toughest game by far, no doubt. But it's also in primetime... and... well... Josh Allen), and the Patriots (who Josh has owned for the last few seasons and puts up generally gaudy numbers, save the hurrcane windstorm from last season). We can all agree our offense hasn't looked like it did at the very beginning of the season, but how many of you would bet against Josh having more than 1 superb, MVP level game in his last 4 outings?

Peter King is one of the NFL MVP voters. In an interview with him on the Herd or some other such show over the past couple weeks he had Allen at #4 at the time. If the vote was today, Allen doesn't win. But the vote isn't today and there's still what used to be a full quarter of the season left to play.

And then suddenly Mahomes has as many Interceptions as Allen and the Bills are the number 1 seed

Yep. Lost to the heat in that game... and Allen put up 450 yards of offense all by himself

Who doesn't want to see the Bills win the Super Bowl? There are a few not-so-smart folks who think Super Bowl MVP (or Super Bowl winner, for that matter) & NFL MVP are mutually exclusive accolades. Don't listen to these not-so-smart folks. They're misinformed. And.... duuuuuhhhhh!!!! Obviously we would all take the Super Bowl over anything else! But there's nothing wrong with being happy about or rooting for both.

Buffalo has 4 games left. Miami Patriots Bears Bengals 2 of those teams Allen played already. In those 2 games, Allen completed almost 69% of his passes, averaged 345 YPG, and had 4 TDs and 1 TO. Plus... we play the Bears. Not over

Do you watch the Bills play? I'm really not trying to be a jerk here, but a lot of what you say suggests you don't Why? He's still in it

Allen has over 4k total yards right now. I think he's only a couple hundred behind Mahomes and suddenly Mahomes is a pick machine. Anything can happen... but it's Hurts in the lead right now

3 INTs today for Mahomes. If anyone separated, it's Hurts, not Mahomes.

I just don't think Allen wins, it, but by the very definition he is. How many dropped passes today? How much incompetence at playcalling? Yet... W!!!

Mods can you please lock this thread? I had no idea this thread was necro-bumped until @SlimShady'sSpaceForce decided to eyeroll it... apparently not realizing the thread was 2 months old and was about an incident now pretty irrelevant.

Welp... that friggin sucks. Can the league please force all these stadiums with that specific turf to change it in the offseason? It's cost us our 2 best defensive players 2 years in a row right as we're preparing for a playoff run.