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Josh... 5-5 playoff record 2,723 yards passing 21 touchdowns 4 interceptions 563 yards rushing 5 rushing TDs . Jackson... 2-4 playoff record 1,324 yards passing 6 touchdowns 6 interceptions 521 yards rushing 3 rushing TDs. Lamar, sadly, pretty much ensured (somehow) he will be in the HOF as a 2 time League MVP. Josh (somehow) still has work he's gotta do to be considered. Discuss...

This offseason more than any offseason I think I'm going to avoid all those shows and stick to just Bills podcasts only. There's plenty of Bills-only content. I know some might view this to be myopic, but I think the national media ultimately has some sort of weird "Bills fatigue" because they've been expecting us to get over the hump for the last few years and we haven't. So now, instead of looking at the NFL and rationally understanding that the Bills still have one of the best players in the NFL at the QB position (inarguably top 5, but I think he really sits alone at #2) and will always have a shot at hoisting a trophy, they decide that because we haven't done it, we'll never do it... so let's give some other fanbases time in the spotlight. It's fine by me. With the dominance of the Chiefs in terms of Championships recently, I think they're just struggling for viewers and content.

Josh friggin carried the Bills on his back against the Chiefs. While the Bills receivers couldn't catch the ball, Chiefs receivers like MVS who had been notorious during the season for dropping passes were actually catching them. The Chiefs ran 47 plays total. Josh Allen himself accounted for 51 plays for the Bills with 39 passes and 12 rushes. Allen had more yards than Mahomes and more TDs than Mahomes. It's really not Allen who has to fix anything. The team needs to get a better WR corps and Bass needs to get out of his own head. Patrick Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL. Josh Allen is the 2nd best QB (and player) in the NFL. And that's it. I think those 2 players are in a class of their own. And if the ball bounces for Buffalo a little better in the upcoming seasons, even that narrative might change.

I actually think this would be a good trade if the 2 teams would do it. New environment for both guys. Elam going to a team that plays mostly man. Burks going to a team with an Elite QB and a creative OC who can find ways to get him the ball in space.

Yes, but he doesn't have to. He doesn't really need the money. He got $8m of his just over $11m already from Pittsburgh.

I would like them to sign him to an extension this offseason, because I think yes. If he plays as well or better next season than he did this season, he's going to cost $4 or $5 million more per season if we sign him now.

Ask me in 10 years

He's a backup. He's better than Kyle Allen. He'd also come probably for the vet minimum because I think Pittsburgh already pay him. Personally, I think Kyle Allen is back because of how close he is with Josh, but I'd love getting Mitch instead of Kyle. People who think a backup QB can realistically be a starting level NFL QB are nuts.

The paycut is almost inevitable. I very, very highly doubt we cut him. By the way... you guys seem to forget that in the NFL teams can't actually cut players who are recovering from injuries. In order to cut him, he'd have to pass a physical. So if people thinking we're doing this to become "CAP compliant," it's not happening before the mid March deadline when the new NFL calendar year starts. And also, if he passes a physical that early... why cut him??? And if he can't pass the physical that early, but does by training camp, you're cutting a healthy player and creating a void you'll have to fill with whatever scraps are leftover from FA or are cut late in TC.

The Tre White of the first 4 games of 2024 was pretty darn close to being back to the old Tre White, actually. Even 80% of the old Tre White you don't cut.

The technique has already worked and quickly for a number of players. Plus the team only saves about $6m if they cut him. Doubt you find a replacement corner at his level for that money

The more I read about this "anchoring" technique to heal a torn achilles... no. Tre might actually be participating fully in the minicamp in a couple months. I think we restructure his deal, which would be smart, but if we get a fully healthy Tre White by minicamp, maybe McDermott and Babbich can transition Benford or Douglas to Safety.

Watched a couple Diggs interviews. Honestly... I think he's just sick of people asking about it. I think he believes he clearly squashed any thought of him wanting out of Buffalo when in Training Camp he spoke glowingly of the Bills and said he wanted to retire a Bill. Even his interviews now he says he doesn't want to be traded. He says he and Josh are family and Josh has done so much for him. The whole "where there's smoke there's fire" statement came in the middle of him riffing. We can't move Diggs. We won't move Diggs. Diggs will continue to be evasive all offseason because that's just how he is. #/thread

John Elway played at a high level until he was 38. In fact, he was the Super Bowl MVP at that age. Brett Favre also had a physical style of play and he had over 200 consecutive starts and had one of the best seasons of his career at age 40. Allen is the current Iron Man of the NFL and it's not even close. He has around 90 consecutive starts. The next closest QB has less than a quarter of that. Josh Allen still has more years of high level QB play in front of him than behind him.

Only problem with that is that NFL MVP and Super Bowl MVP would pretty much always be the same guy.

It doesn't matter... everyone (except Nick Wright) knows Allen is the better QB.

Onto next year... It really is a joke Lamar won it this year. Bills fan and Josh Allen homer aside... McCaffery really should have won it. Do even any of the most negative Nancy or (as they'd call themselves) "objective" and "realistic" posters on this board think Lamar Jackson was more valuable to his team this year or just flat out had a better year? Plus... anyone notice no one EVER talks about how many fumbles he loses... it's a lot.

I'm excited about Brady and Babbich because they're hot names across the NFL for a reason. Brady coordinated arguably the best passing offense in College Football history and has actually served as an OC in the NFL and found some success with minimal talent and Teddy Bridgewater at QB. As far as Babbich goes... everything he's touches has turned to Gold. He was the Safeties coach in the beginning of Poyer and Hyde's career and the year he shifted to LB coach was Edmunds best year and Milano was an All-Pro and then this year we all saw Bernard plus he turned Dodson into a pretty good LB. That's why I'm excited. And most coaches do promote from within. Perhaps it's time for you to consider that promoting from within is actually a good sign.

We aren't on a new Coordinator because we fired one each time. We fired one OC and (probably) one DC. As for the whole "McDermott should go outside the organization because all he hires are YES men!!!"... Matt Parrino and Ryan Talbot talked about this recently on their "Shout" podcast. Of course Head Coaches are going to hire people who will do what he wants them to do. That's what all Head Coaches do. And they should. The difference here is also that both our new OC and DC were desired by other teams for either the same position or a Head Coaching position.

Well this just belies the what happened and really paints it negatively for no good reason. For OC, we lost our previous OC who was so good that he got a HC job. Then we promoted the QB coach (who NEVER had any playcalling experience) already on the squad and let him try the position for a full year and a half before moving on from him. Then we promoted the new QB coach who DID have previous playcalling experience to OC and we got a 9 game sample size with him. So, as far as OC goes at least, it's not like we don't know part of what we're getting. For DC, there was a mutual parting of ways (it seems) with our years-long DC. Then our HC who cut his teeth as a DC decided to call plays. Now we promoted a guy widely viewed as an up and coming young coach, not because of the lack of success this past season, but more as a way to make sure we don't lose the young guy.

Tre was pretty bad when he came back. He was also eased back into the lineup with several weeks after Von was this year. You hear athletes time and time again say that ACL tears really take more than a year's worth of recovery for them to feel like themselves again. We started to see flashes of the old Von in his last 2 games. I've said my piece. You've said yours while hijacking a thread that was supposed to be about getting excited about this team moving forward. Maybe you should start a separate thread about how you think Von should be cut because he's shot. I'm sure that thread will get plenty of dialogue.

See Tre White coming back from his 2021 injury in 2022.

Yes. You spend another $6.7m on Von. I understand your position and wildly disagree with it. There's an objective age cut in your brain that Von just doesn't make. There's absolutely no arguing against that because we didn't see a fully healthy Von really at all this year. Tre was a shell of himself when he came back in 2022 after an ACL tear in 2021. He looked much better this season. I (and others) am saying Von deserves some latitude when it comes to his performance this year because of his injury. You're saying he reached X age so he's shot and that's it. That's literally what you're arguing. I think that argument is ridiculous. I could point to Reggie White, Bruce Smith, or even Michael Strahan who all had good to great seasons at an age older than what Von will be this season. You'll say different era. This is a stupid argument. Von will be on the team. You've sure made your position clear... you'll either be right or wrong. But talking about a simple age cutoff as the strict and sole reason he won't belong on an NFL field next season is a stupid conversation because there's no proof of it other than screaming from the mountaintop that he's shot as you've been doing throughout this entire thread, which ironically wasn't about Von.

You said Shakir is the only guaranteed contributor on the team next year and that's blatantly false. Diggs is guaranteed to be on the team as a contributor next year, and even if he's on the otherbside of the hill, he's still better than Shakir, who I love. People need to just stop watching Diggs interviews and reading his tweets. He's the ultimate Troll in the offseason and you all fall for it.