transplantbillsfan

Not only all of this, but with 2 games still to go Lamar already has 1 more interception and 4 more lost fumbles than 2019. Did you read that? Lamar Jackson has 24 TDs and 13 turnovers. I call total bull#### he wins it this year unless he goes ballistic the next 2 weeks.

But I guess it makes sense to fight against logic????

Miami needs to lose to Baltimore first. It's possible, probably even likely, but not a guarantee. We need to win Sunday against the Pats, first and foremost. But let's say Buffalo beats the Pats (likely), AND any combination of 2 of the following 3 where Jacksonville loses to the Panthers (possible and maybe very possible with Lawrence's injury), Pittsburgh loses to the Seahawks (very possible), Cincy loses to the Chiefs (I'm giving this just a very possible at this point) AND Miami beats the Ravens (possible)... Do you treat week 18 like a preseason game and rest starters knowing you're likely to be back in Miami the following week, anyway???

What games?

You left out lost fumbles. He's only lost 3 this season. I really think we should be talking more about how Allen has cleaned up his fumbling problem. One of his credited lost fumbles was that weird end of game play against the Pats I think. Meanwhile, Lamar has lost 6 and Tua, Mahomes and Hurts all have 5.

I'm sorry, but everything you've said in this thread is just ridiculous. I think you should ban yourself from this very thread after you said you don't care about total TDs for QBs. Here's what I'll say about this race. I don't really care about Vegas odds because Vegas doesn't vote on the MVP. MVP voters vote when the season ends. After the last game. If they do that and Buffalo has won out, I think voters will look at the 4 or 5 main candidates at that point (CMC, Tyreek, Lamar, Tua?) and dismiss Tyreek and Tua because they lost head to head against Josh and potentially Lamar. They will dismiss Lamar because he's likely going to have 20 fewer TDs than Allen (TDs equal 6 points for posters like @BullBuchanan who don't actually understand football). And then it's simply going to boil down to Allen vs CMC. And I think if Allen has 6+ TDs and 2 or fewer turnovers in the last 2 games, the voters are going to look at a QB who scored over 45 TDs leading his team to an almost improbable playoff berth based on mid-season record. And Allen wins it.

Oh really? You said... and I quote: "Allen still isn't anywhere near top 5 for MVP" Now, please wiggle your way out of this trying to explain that you weren't 100% wrong. Or just man up and admit you were wrong. By the way, how did Brock Purdy do for his MVP case tonight?

You must be new. Happens here all the time.

https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2023-24-nfl-mvp-odds-and-favorites https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/mvp/

Ohhh... I get it now. I just looked at the timing of your deleted post and it was during the game. Lemme guess... you thought the Bills were going to lose so you preemptively started gloating that I was wrong and you were right and then we won so you had to delete it... amiright??? I guess you're one of those fans.

Did you have to rethink this post and make it again 12 hours later for some reason?

I think he's already in. I know by the end of his career he's definitely in.

This team was in massive trouble without Allen today. We reversed course from last week as far as needing Allen to win. Case in point: Allen had 1 turnover while OTHER had 2 turnovers. Buffalo was on the road and lost the turnover margin 3 to 0. How often do teams win on the road when losing the turnover margin by that much? I was worried about this game immediately after that debacle last week and then even more after the Chargers fired Staley. Allen (and Oliver) carried us on his (their) shoulders and nothing else matters.

He's already in the HOF

I mean... yeah... it sucked. I don't blame Allen for trying it, though. Diggs was open if Allen could've gotten it to him. Problem is he was throwing the ball probably 60 yards across the field while fading away. I legitimately wonder if Allen put everything into that throw or not. As it was, that play was a 2nd and 7. If it were a 3rd and 7 we'd just be viewing it as a 41 yard punt. Problem was what the defense gave up much of the game.

Funny how much that INT is going to hurt Allen. Really tough throw. Not necessarily a bad decision, just a bad throw. Regardless, 1st QB in NFL history with 40+ TDs in 4 consecutive seasons. That actually surprised me cause I thought Mahomes reached that. Plus... 1st and only QB in NFL history to run and pass for a TD in 11 games in a season. Survive and advance...

Not anymore

This Jackson MVP hype train is just so F*in confusing to me! Am I the only one? I get Purdy. I get Dak. Heck, I even understood Tua while it lasted. But Lamar?????? Lamar Jackson 3846 total yards 66.3% comp % 22 total TDs 13 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 0 Game Winning Drives Josh Allen 3939 total yards 66.3% comp % 37 total TDs 17 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives Brock Purdy 3933 total yards 69.8% comp % 31 total TDs 9 total TOs 0 4th Quarter Comebacks 0 Game Winning Drives Dak Prescott 3851 total yards 68.8% comp % 30 Total TDs 9 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives I don't even know if Lamar Jackson ends up with 30 TDs. There is NO WAY Lamar is winning MVP.

No clue if Peacock is still having the deal, but on Black Friday I got Peacock for $2 per month for a full year and can cancel at any time. So I technically paid $2 to watch the game. But honestly, there are some movies and shows on there I'll watch, anyway.

Still feel that way??? Sooo... you don't think we win another game???? Bookmarked Man... coming back to threads like this with all the concrete declarations is hilarious.

Yep... and we beat KC and Dallas. You take a look at our remaining schedule? Still think that??? For what??? The Buffalo Bills????

Nope. At this point I would bet you money Allen won't lead the league in turnovers. He's no longer alone at the top, anyway. Allen has 17 turnovers. Sam Howell has 17 turnovers. Recent MVP frontrunner Jalen Hurts has 17 turnovers. Allen has 11 TDs and 3 interceptions since Brady took over. Mahomes will probably have more turnovers by the end of the year than Allen.

The thing is... almost every time he's "flopped" he has also been fouled. Just because Allen flopped yesterday by pointing to his facemask and he wasn't hit in the facemask, Lawrence was called for a late hit, not hitting Allen in the face. And it absolutely was a late hit. He had time to pull back. Allen may exaggerate the effect of these hits, but is it his fault he's a big dude who isn't impacted as much by these hits as smaller QBs? Good on him to draw the attention of the refs.