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Big words. I'm gonna have to directly quote Bill the Bard here Wanna bet Allen doesn't start a meaningful game this year? Let's bet

You have a reading comprehension problem. Kirby mentioned Alex Smith as the MVP candidate last year specifically to emphasize the outlier that situation was. Nathan Peterman is not Alex Smith... Neither is AJ McCarron, for that matter. Translation... Allen will very very likely start meaningful regular season games in 2018. It doesn't. He has a reading comprehension problem and didn't even understand what was a pretty straightforward post.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/nfl-preseason-blitz-now-know-bills-fell-love-josh-allens-arm-035632424.html Now we know why the Bills fell in love with Josh Allen's arm https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/08/the_bills_have_their_most_talented_quarterback_since_jim_kelly_in_josh_allen_say.amp Buffalo Bills have their most talented quarterback since Jim Kelly in Josh Allen, says Adam Schein And on the Colin Cowherd show today, Brady Quinn was a guest and he was asked questions about Baker Mayfield's performance. With absolutely no prompting or mention of Allen's name, Quinn said (to paraphrase) "ya know the guy who I thought was great last night: Josh Allen. He's the guy who looked like the #1 overall pick last night." He brought Allen up again later with no prompting. It's funny because all the negative buzz seems to be solely about that one 4th and 3 play. Nothing negative about him, otherwise

No surprise that Peterman's closet defender is taking jabs at a rookie who had an excellent 1st performance. Too bad. Thank you and thank your brother!!! Allen behind a real OL and let's actually give him a chance to work on these fundamentals. You're mistaken.

The difficulty of preseason though is separating appearance from reality... Peterman was an All-star last preseason, too... remember? I'm okay if he ends up starting, but his ball velocity still looks like something DBs salivate over. His sideline passes will forever terrify me... I think I have PTSD just from watching him last year.

Funny that you literally only refer to one of 3 bombs Allen threw to Foster. The other 2 consisted of a fantastic throw that Foster was looking back at the QB for 20-30 yards while running, which slowed him down just enough for the ball to graze his fingertips. The next was a play where Foster basically just stopped running at one point because he thought Allen was sacked. I watched the game a 2nd time today. Allen's performance really was excellent. Please join reality.

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Well, you're in the tiny minority and you're credibility is now even more questionable than it was. Don't live in Buffalo and don't listen to WGR, but from what I've heard the people with opinions on that station and the callers are mostly kooks.

Taylor's gone because of a confluence of events: - Strongest QB class in years... maybe since 1983 -Extra 1st round draft pick as draft capital -The slide up the draft continued moving up to #12 by trading Cordy Glenn -We were offered the 1st pick of the 3rd round for him, providing sufficient confidence to Beane and McDermott we could trade up (or not) to get one of the best QBs in the draft Those are the reasons Taylor's gone. If this were the QB draft class of 2013 all over again, Taylor would still be in Buffalo. Taylor's in a better situation and so are the Bills. It's win/win. This doesn't have to even be a debate for that simple reason.

Exactly. That was what I was most pleased with. Allen honestly could have gotten killed just based on how porous our 2nd half OL was. But dude moved around the pocket well when he had to, hung in there and took a couple hits while delivering the ball (which I think all of us were gasping at) and chose to run smartly at other times, being sure to protect himself. I could see McDermott just shelving Allen for as long as he can while Peterman or McCarron start and win. The thing about it, I think, is that while McCarron or especially Peterman can be successful and win regular season games for us, it will be dependent on Dabol's game plan, which would be limited. And you could see that when Peterman was playing. Peterman was really good last night, but you can still see the limitations that just aren't there for Allen, who appears to be well ahead of where everyone projected him to be.

FWIW, on the Colin Cowherd show today, Brady Quinn was a guest and he was asked questions about Baker Mayfield's performance. With absolutely no prompting or mention of Allen's name, Quinn said (to paraphrase) "ya know the guy who I thought was great last night: Josh Allen. He's the guy who looked like the #1 overall pick last night." He brought Allen's name in again at some point during that interview; again, with no prompting. I think you're all alone with blinders on if you thought Allen didn't look really, really good.

I'm going to be fine with what McDermott chooses to do. Last night it was very, very obvious who the best QB on our team is. Allen is just head and shoulders more talented than the other 2 guys. And it seems pretty clear that the worries about an OL protecting him are greatly overblown as the 1st team OL looked very good AND when Allen had the 3rd string OL in front of him and was running for his life, anyway, he was successful. But the reason I'll be fine with what McDermott does is because both Peterman and McCarron looked fine. If they feel Allen really needs more development, okay. These coaches see him every day so they know what he needs, regardless of what the rest of us see.in one half of one preseason game. I think it'll be interesting to see what happens. He may very well have earned his time with the 1s yesterday, though. FWIW, on the Colin Cowherd show today, Brady Quinn was a guest and he was asked questions about Baker Mayfield's performance. With absolutely no prompting or mention of Allen's name, Quinn said (to paraphrase) "ya know the guy who I thought was great last night: Josh Allen. He's the guy who looked like the #1 overall pick last night." He brought Allen's name in again at some point during that interview; again, with no prompting.

It was a really good performance, except for that bad pass. Far from breathtaking. The improved arm strength is noticeable, but far from what was advertised. Why are you fighting so hard? Are you really just trolling? Everyone thinks Peterman played well. But it's not like he's the 6 Million Dollar Man who was completely remade in the offseason. After today's performance I feel better than I did 24 hours ago if he's our placeholder to start the season... meaning I feel we could actually win games with him. What exactly about that do you feel the need to fight about?

Who had a perfect outing? Peterman? He was good, but that interception was on him. Short pass to the receiver and he threw it behind him. Not perfect. Did you just friggin throw out completion % after that game??? Clearly you didn't watch the game... or you stopped watching after your hero left the field. What a joke.

How are we supposed to know if that rings true yet? We haven't seen anything about McDermott's approach from here, yet. So you're asking this question, the obvious question you're forced answer first is how did you think each of the QBs played? Did you think Peterman's performance was "off-the-charts?" How about McCarron? Was Allen's performance "just okay?" Pretty curious as to what you think the level of each performance was because the level of each guy's performance dictates the entire statement you refer to. This is just a weird post from someone who either didn't watch the game or believes the QB is responsible for the faults of not just himself, but also the other 10 guys on offense. Allen was damn good tonight. I think we should all be a bit more comfortable with our QB situation right now.

He may have earned some time in a game with the 1s based on what he was able to accomplish with what he was given. One of my favorites

So... has the board suddenly shifted to this? I'll say this. All our QBs looked pretty darn good tonight, and that makes me happy. If Peterman's TC and preseason isn't a fluke (like last year), then I feel good even with him starting, primarily because I think our OL is much better than most thought it would be, just as I suspected. Which begs the question of whether it's really a good idea to let our Franchise QB get killed behind the terrible scrubs at OL out there in the 2nd half. Good thing Allen is big and athletic otherwise I think he's already on IR.

Anyone notice that for the 2nd half of Thursday's game we will probably see Josh Allen probably with Corey Coleman at WR most of the time? We could potentially be watching a preview of the next decade QB to WR1... not saying either will happen for sure, but you typically don't see something like that play out in the 2nd half of a preseason game.

We got him for a SEVENTH ROUND DRAFT PICK IN 2020!!!

Joe B: 7 observations from 2018 Buffalo Bills training camp - Day 10 2) Peterman, Allen with a bounce-back practice- On Sunday, the performance of all three quarterbacks was less than spectacular. That day was one of the less impressive days of the group through training camp. However, on Monday, Nathan Peterman and rookie Josh Allen both had one of the better practices of camp thus far. Peterman started off the day completing each of his first seven passes, and they weren't just little dump downs and throws behind the line of scrimmage. Peterman was pushing the ball down the field and giving his targets a chance to make a play where the coverage was a bit tight. He ended the day 8-of-10, but this was as close to the version of Peterman that we saw during the spring. As for Allen, his stat line of 4-for-8 surely doesn't stand out, but it does when you provide the context of it. Two of his incompletions were blatant drops -- one that hit Travaris Cadet in the hands on a perfect deep pass that split the cornerback and safety in zone coverage, and another by Rod Streater that got both hands on it along the left sideline -- and another was a great throw over the middle that cornerback Breon Borders made a great play on to break up. Allen also had the lone touchdown of the day, a fastball that he somehow fed into the gut of Ray-Ray McCloud over the middle of the field while a defender was all over him. Of his 10 practices, this one was right up there as one of his most accurate.

Checked 1st page. Checked 2nd page. Checked last page. How are people not more excited about an incredibly low risk (sounds like we lose a 5th at worst, is that right?) and incredibly high reward acquisition???? Love it!

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Your point is that the unknown is hard for us as fans to evaluate. I 100% agree. All we do is hear names and read practice reports from people who don’t have full context, so it’s at least incomplete, if not unreliable. Luckily McDermott— who’s now approaching 2 decades of NFL coaching and has a wealth of other experienced assistant NFL coaches to lean on—has had daily practice exposure through in person execution and studying practice film after that I can say pretty confidently that evaluation won’t be so hard for him. In other words, if he’s a good coach and is as meticulous as he sure appears to be, he’s going to know where the weak links on our team are going into Baltimore. When I said I prefer to embrace the unknown while you seem to fear it, you missed my underlying premise that unknown to you and me is not and will not be unknown to McDermott.

All good points. And what you say is absolutely possible!