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you haven't been for a couple years now, which is disappointing.

Wow. Well that's a stupid analogy. I get that you're just trolling, which is fine and fun for you, I'm sure, but clearly you're incredibly focused on calling out what you perceive to be racism in others... so much so that you are lost in this phrase. Read through all those damn articles you cite yourself. The words "well-spoken" and "articulate" are not themselves racist unless you exclusively use them with African Americans with feelings of amazement and bewilderment. I use those words all the time. The fact that you saw that word and it jumped out at you tells me there must be some amazement and bewilderment over a Black person being "articulate" and "well spoken" on your part.

No, actually I didn't.

I'm not saying anything about left or right. Yes, lots of racist liberals are out there. Lots of racist conservatives. Racism abounds in our country in many ways. What the hell does that have to do with the heart of his own racist accusation? It's like you guys know the material but then fail the test when you have to put it to use.

No. The fact that me using the term "well spoken" and believing that term was interconnected with the color of skin the person I was talking about was racist. I like Amy Klobuchar and liked Mitt Romney because they are well spoken and I don't like Donald Trump and didn't like W because they are well spoken. And if you claim that saying that term in any capacity is racist, just label everyone in the world, including yourself, racist and get it over with.

Why would I be trolling? I'm calling you out for what was an overtly racist call-out. What do you honestly think all these articles your posting prove? I've processed all those articles just fine. The fact is they're irrelevant. He's talking fruits and I'm talking vegetables. In part, I think it's because he lives in a bubble... this insane Internet/Social Media bubble I think many other posting here live in that makes you think you're more educated than everyone else when it really just closes the walls around you until you're in a narrow, concrete tunnel.

I'm just amazed that you don't get it and you're being enabled so much on here.

Yes, it was. You're really getting ridiculous. And I think you're stretching the ridiculousness here to distract from the simplicity of an obvious racist mistake on your part. Or maybe you're actually just a twitter bot that can't differentiate and seeks conflict instead

What I think is this... some of you guys spend so much time in PPP and alternatively on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram (none of which I have accounts for) that it's actually twisted your perceptions into something just right of reality. You point to articles that prove the words "well-spoken" and "articulate" are racist--although they don't actually prove the words are racist, they just point to how they could be perceived as racist when directed at certain people. I like Amy Klobuchar because, in part, she's well-spoken and articulate. I don't like Elizabeth Warren, in part, because I don't think she's very well-spoken or articulate. I'm sorry, am I being racist when I use those words in speaking about them? As someone who teaches a subject that focuses on reading, writing AND speaking... the speaking part matters to me. That is definitively NOT racist, even as I also acknowledge there are systemically racist issues with the education system itself. If people want to know why I keep coming back, it's purely for this subject alone. It was a ridiculous and disgusting accusation compounded by a couple other posters jumping on his back. Sure would be nice for @DC Tom to very simply admit to his mistake. But he seems like a small person who would never do that. No, it was racist on your part to twist something that wasn't racist into being racist by adding the word "Black" in quotations--as though I said, thought, or meant it--to a post that wasn't remotely about race.

Here, I'll explain how it started. I posted this in response to a question about what qualified Michelle Obama as a candidate to run: She worked in the Public sector as an Assistant to the Mayor of Chicago, Assistant Commissioner of Planning and Development, Executive Director for the Chicago office of Public Allies, Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago developing the University's Community Service Center, worked as executive director for community affairs and then as Vice President for Community and External Affairs for Chicago Hospitals. She's super smart, graduating from Princeton and then Harvard law school. She's very well-spoken, which would help in addressing not only the public, but also in foreign relations. She's a fantastic role-model. That more than checks any boxes she would need, especially now that so many boxes have been eliminated with our current president. If Michelle Obama ran for President, she would win. If she ran against Trump, it wouldn't surprise me if he would bow out knowing the inevitable outcome. But she's not running, so no point in discussing it, really. But I was challenged to answer a question, so I did. to which DC Tom replied: Ahh, yes. The "Well-Spoken Black." Not racist at all. Except, of course, I didn't say black, so I don't know why on earth he put that in quotes.... clearly that's what he's thinking about, though.

So shouldn't people be prepared to be called a racist when they are being racist? If DC Tom could simply admit he was being racist (I can say he might not be overtly racist, but he was absolutely being racist), your argument would make sense. But that's not what he's doing. He's calling an analysis of a candidate racist just because it contained a "buzzword" and he was attributing that buzzword to some generalized standard. He brought race into a conversation where it was literally irrelevant. So again, I ask, if your standards are that people should be prepared to be called an idiot when they are being idiots, why shouldn't he be held to that standard and admit to his own racist post?

And therein lies the problem right there. I bet you guys are just all over Facebook and Instagram and Twitter every single day. You've circled yourselves into toilet bowls that need plunging. Done. Off the Wall is enough non-football dialogue for me.

You missed the argument. Go over to the the other thread if you want to see it. I'm done now. I've explained myself well enough. You could argue me wrong on some other points I've made over here. I'm not wrong on DC Tom being a racist, at least in the context of that conversation. Buh-bye. You're dumb.

It might not quite be you. You just jumped on DC Tom's butt, maybe because you idolize him. But it is DC Tom.

Only that DC Tom is.

Except you demonstrated your own racism... or at least your extreme unfamiliarity with other races. Clearly you think a lot about race in dialogue that has nothing to do with race. The article/video you and @GG pointed out tell me that you must be so uncomfortable with being labelled a racist that you'll find anything that anyone says that anyone on earth could interpret as racist in any way and point it out to deflect your own inherent racism. I use the phrase "well-spoken" and "articulate" all the time with people in many settings of many different professions, positions all the time. Again, as an English Language Arts teacher, by trade that is something that I appreciate. You saw those buzzwords and immediately jumped to race. And you're still trying to run away from the very racism inherent in your own accusation.

You guys are ***** racist idiots. Seriously. I'm out before I get kicked out permanently. I'm sure the cronyism could make that happen quickly.

Shut up you racist dumbass. You're pathetic. I love how you ran away from the other thread where the evidence of your own blatant racism is. What's most pathetic is you legitimately think the way you brought race into a conversation that wasn't REMOTELY about race was you somehow being a champion for some anti-racist argument. Just sad. Yes. And Bill Clinton. And Mitt Romney. "He's well spoken" "She articulates well" It's absolutely a box to check for me. As an English teacher, it should be.

W graduated from Harvard and he's a bumbling idiot. Guess racism is just an undercurrent here.

This place is toxic and really sucks, largely because of racist picks like you. I hope you do some self exploration. Back to the Wall. PPP is pointless.

Well amazingly the Cardinals GM was pretty non-committal about Rosen being the Cardinals QB next year when asked before the combine. "...right now..." sure isn't a huge vote of confidence. What a royal screw up that will turn out to be if they draft a QB #1.

Well, I said this all depends largely what people say their plan for reparations are. Right now, I like Harris's plan, which is the systemic change I would prefer. And if a candidate like Harris defines that systemic change as reparations, I definitely support reparations. The question of what a reparations program looks like is absolutely integral to this discussion.

What the hell are you talking about and why did you just @ me?

No. Call yourself a racist because you brought up race when it was completely irrelevant. Why in the world did you even bring race up after that post? I don't foray enough into this forum, but I get the impression you're viewed as one of the better contributors in PPP. If that's the case, this is a low point for you. It's funny how even in this post you're trying to steer the conversation into a broader discussion of racism to deflect the revelation of your own racism, jackass.

US leads the world in reducing carbon emissions over the last decade... Hmmmmm.... who was our President been for most of the last decade???? Despite all these regulations Trump is lifting on things like gas mileage, most car companies are sticking with trends of improving gas mileage because they understand whatever regulations Trump lifts are likely to be brought back... and they already started the process, so why reverse course at this point? Yikes, this place is horrible... really brings out the worst in people.