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Brah... he signed an obviously team friendly contract that is below market value no matter what ANYONE says. Humans are complex beings. We can have multiple thoughts at the same time. Josh can be so confident in himself and his ability that he's willing to take a team friendly deal while simultaneously understanding that the narrative often favors the highest paid QB. Josh cares because he cares about being the best QB in the NFL

Really??? How much game film do you watch? How many times have you seen Benford get burned or even targeted over the years? I don't watch film but trust the guys who do like Joe Marino, Nate Tice, Bruce Nolan and Robert Mayes. Those guys all think he's somewhere in the range of really good to Elite. Benford's camp was smart to hold out. His price range is probably somewhere between $25-$30m AAV

Anyone questioning this signing in lieu of his contract and suspension should listen to this interview: Legitimately excited to see what his role will be in our Defense

I don't want to read this entire thread for the answer, but I would guess a suspension like this by the league would have an impact on their money, wouldn't it? Also, I'm really excited about Hoecht when he gets onthe field.

We knew this was coming right? Upgrade over Elam for the 3rd CB. Now we get the starter

Was he ever good? That said, I like the signing. Can't hurt to see what an ultra talented guy has in him and whether playing with Josh will help him.

Good. Now bring back Dane Jackson, a higher end FA CB, and a CB in the top 3 rounds. Buffalo now has 8 picks in the first 5 rounds. Pretty awesome.

By the way, for those wondering this signing does NOT count against the Comp pick formula since he was released.

Can you please summarize for those who suck at Where's Waldo?

Brought back Ty for 2 years. Ray Davis looked good. Lots of people saying this is the best Rb class in years. Are we poised to trade Cook?

All of the film nuts and football nerds actually really like Palmer. He was Joe Marino's FA WR target. Anyone who listens to The Athletic Football Show knows that Robert Mayes really knows his stuff and Palmer was one of his "who's the Zach Baun of 2024 breakout star for 2025."

I dunno man... a lot of the guys who watch the film think he's already a top 5 CB.

That's the crazy part of all of this. I don't think it was the draft capital. We could have easily thrown in one of our 4ths or 5ths or a couple this year to sweeten the pit. I think this was the extension money. $33m AAV???? I'm sure Beane knew that's what it would take and was out. I really don't blame him. DK might have also wanted to reunite with Russ and might've gotten assurances

I just went from six to midnight

How exactly would bringing him back even work? Is it even possible to bring him back and save even more money after having already released him?

What did you guys want to happen? Trade him? If you wanted us to trade him then fine. If not, this move actually frees up a bunch of CAP space for us right now for a potential Garrett trade and extension. And I don't know if he has the 10th highest AAV through this extension, but let's say he does. In 2026 when the actual money for the extension itself kicks in it's probably going to be in the 15-20 range after other guys get contracts. This deal in no way prohibits a big trade. EDIT: just saw the Garrett extension. So much for that...

Much like the Bernard and Shakir contracts, does this account for the "extension" part of this? These aren't 4 year deals... they're 5 year deals. This is essentially a 5 year, $93ish million contract. The reality is Groot's AAV for the next 5 years is less than $19m. Are even the haters good with that???? Also, this move freed up a ton of CAP space. I would say these extensions make a bit move more likely, not less likely.

Wow!!! Beane is KILLING it!!!!

I l9ve that the AFC West is quietly becoming one of the beat divisions in Football

Guaranteed money is all that matters. AAV is really for agents. Bernard just signed for HALF the guaranteed money Edmunds got with Chicago a couple years ago. Good deal.

It's Garrett, but a different part of me would prefer Hendrickson so we can keep our 1st and at least 1 of our 2nds. I think part of my ideal offseason is starting to land on still very good but not insanely expensive pass rusher and some combination of 320+ LB, WR, & CB with our first 3 picks. Also wondering if we don't go for Mack in FA. Optics won't be great because of age but he's still awesome. If we traded for Henderson and then got Matthew Golden in the 1st, Alfred Collins with our 2nd and a CB next, I'd be pretty darn excited. Or maybe instead we should get a CB with our 2nd and Jordan Phillips with our next pick just fir consistency. It's still Garrett, though.

I guess I don't know what those people are arguing, but I think Shakir would be the 2nd best WR on the vast majority of NFL teams with obvious exceptions like the Dolphins, Bengals and Eagles. And I don't think we've seen his ceiling and Beane is banking on that the same way he did with the Spencer Brown deal, which now looks like a steal. His deal is fantastic for that reason.

By the way, Greg Tompsett points out that these 4 years are added as new money onto the last year of his rookie deal, when he's slated to make $3.3m due to proven performance escalators. 5 year $63.5m deal locks him up through age 30. Even better! @BullBuchanan and @Jrb1979... stop your whining!

Of course Shakir isn't AJ Brown, Chace, or Davonte Smith. But with this contract he's not being paid like them. In fact, his contract lines up with another former Bill who recently signed a WR contract: Gabe Davis. I'd say Shakir brings a LOT more value than Gabe Davis, which is why this is a fantastic deal.