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It wouldn't be a bonus. It's a not likely to be earned incentive, which are typically based on the player's previous statistical season. I listen to a LOT of Greg Tompsett. That's exactly how he defines it. You can Google it and that's how it's defined, too. I'm sure that player and team can come to a different agreement, but what would be the motivation for the player? The entire point is that it benefits both player and team, as this does. That's how you so often hear of players agreeing to something we equate to a "payout." They can earn it back. And if they do, the team owes it the following year. Tompsett also points out that it can work in favor of the team when a player agrees to LIKELY to be earned incentives, but doesn't reach them. For example, Matt Milano signed an extension last offseason. We don't know the details of the incentives in his contract, but assuming the team put incentives in his contract that were likely to be earned incentives in his contract like tackles, sacks, interceptions, and games played... he likely didn't meet those incentives. Those likely to be earned incentives would have counted against the CAP last year and therefore we'd get that money back in the CAP this year. If the report is that Von can still earn $20m next year, I doubt it's Beane being ruthless and would bet on the not likely to be earned incentives.

I don't doubt that, but you hearing this from anywhere in particular???? 10 tackles won't be difficult for him to reach, anyway.

Not likely to be earned incentives are typically based on the player's previous statistical season. I listen to a LOT of Greg Tompsett. That's exactly how he defines it. You can Google it and that's how it's defined, too. I'm sure that player and team can come to a different agreement, but what would be the motivation for the player? The entire point is that it benefits both player and team, as this does. Tompsett also points out that it can work in favor of the team when a player agrees to LIKELY to be earned incentives, but doesn't reach them. For example, Matt Milano signed an extension last offseason. We don't know the details of the incentives in his contract, but assuming the team put incentives in his contract that were likely to be earned incentives in his contract like tackles, sacks, interceptions, and games played... he likely didn't meet those incentives. Those likely to be earned incentives would have counted against the CAP last year and therefore we'd get that money back in the CAP this year.

Yes, that's how it works.

I think he legitimately thinks he can still play and this new deal gives him the opportunity to earn more than what he was scheduled to earn. You can almost guarantee that 2 of the "hard to reach incentives" put in his contract are tackles and sacks. That means if he gets more tackles than 2023, he reaches that incentive and earns more. That wouldn't be hard considering he had 3 tackles If he gets more sacks than in 2023, he reaches that incentive and earns more. That wouldn't be hard considering he had 0 sacks. My bet is another incentive will be games played or active, and considering he started the season on PUP, that might not be hard for him, either. So yes, this is a solid for Buffalo, but he may legitimately believe he's about to earn more than he was scheduled... and all of that money goes on next year's CAP.

Actually I think he legitimately thinks he can still play and this new deal gives him the opportunity to earn more than what he was scheduled to earn. Think about it folks... you can almost guarantee that 2 of the "hard to reach incentives" put in his contract are tackles and sacks. That means if he gets more tackles than 2023, he reaches that incentive and earns more. That wouldn't be hard considering he had 3 tackles If he gets more sacks than in 2023, he reaches that incentive and earns more. That wouldn't be hard considering he had 0 sacks. My bet is another incentive will be games played or active, and considering he started the season on PUP, that might not be hard for him, either. So yes, this is a solid for Buffalo, but he may legitimately believe he's about to earn more than he was scheduled... and all of that money goes on next year's CAP.

Super interesting, but I bet those "hard to reach incentives" were attainable in Von's eyes, which is why he agreed to it.

Dude... what the heck are you talking about????? So because we released a CB who hasn't been healthy or Elite for 3 years, a Safety who is clearly on the decline, a Special Teams Ace who is clearly on the decline, a WR/PR who never remotely lived up to his expectations or contract, a RB/PR who... same thing, and our starting Center who was still good, but old... our window is closed???? I think if anything this might show that Beane and McDermott are looking at this team and trying to ignite new life in it THIS year!!! Those 11 draft picks we have sure will help. Super Bowl!!!!

What's the Douglas salary conversion?

There is also a financial component to taking Coleman in the 1st round if you're willing to trade down to the top of the 2nd to get him that Beane might be considering. That 5th year option for a WR might matter here.

Wow... that's interesting. Dude's a starting caliber Guard. It'd be really nice if Tommy Doyle could come back healthy, but not counting on that. Let's hope Alec Anderson has developed into a Bates level backup and can play Center at least adequately.

So I'm not saying I'm an advocate for drafting Keon Coleman in the 1st or anything, but I think way too much is being made of his 40 time at the Combine. I realize all I'm going by is highlights, but his play speed looks plenty fine to me. First play at 18 seconds shows him plenty fast and elusive enough. Play at 1:51 looks like a guy with more agility and route running than Gabe. The next play (that you see from the All-22 at 2:10) shows pretty good route running ability along with the speed to separate from the defender. At 2:41 you see him used in a Bubble Screen with enough speed and agility to get away from the defender and get into the EZ. Watch his Punt return at 3:00 and tell me that a guy at that size returning a punt like that isn't impressive. Another effective Bubble Screen at 1:03 Effective WR screen behind the LOS at 1:30 I'm going to stop there. I've been listening to a lot of sports podcasts lately that aren't just Bills ones. Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. First Draft with Field Yates and Mel Kiper Jr. The Athletic Football Podcast with Nate Tice and (sometimes) Dane Brugler. What you hear a lot about the scouting process is the phrase "grade the flashes." Basically, grade those players in their best moments. Keon Coleman in his best moments looks like a 1st round WR, to me. All that said, I do think his draft stock is down after the 40 time, so if we drafted Coleman, what I'd like to see us do is actually trade DOWN into the top of the 2nd and acquire more draft picks and use those other draft picks to slingshot up for more picks in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round because there's supposed to be a significant drop off in talent after the middle rounds.

The gauntlet is much more representative of "in game GPS speed," don't you think? Coleman and McConkey were 2 of the best performers in that drill. Let's also remember that Puka Nakua's 40 time last year was 4.57 and Kyren Williams' 40 time 2 years ago was a 4.65. Both of those guys were studs for the Rams.

So stupid. Extend. Dude was a top 10 LT this year. Plus OL chemistry. Keep the starting 5 together. I wouldn't even be shocked if we extend Morse another year.

This is an awesome move! He was a backup and we were overpaying for him. Now we clear up over $3m in CAP space for a guy who played possibly a handful of snaps last season and no meaningful ones. As Sal Capacio said, Alec Anderson fills a similar role, has a full year in the system and is millions cheaper. I definitely think this ups the potential for a Center in the first few rounds, but with 11 picks now I think it would be negligence if we didn't draft a center. This draft is going to be super interesting. I've heard from some of the experts that this is a very top heavy draft in the sense that after rounds 3 or 4 the talent drops off a cliff. I expect Buffalo to make 5-7 picks in the first 4 rounds. I hope they all hit! Gonna be a fun draft!

Oh... well if they met at the Senior Bowl then obviously the Bills interviewed him... so the entire notion of him being off the table for us is out the window.

I'm confused. Has it been confirmed that the Bills did NOT meet with McConkey? Can't remember which podcast I was listening to, but I think it was Daniel Jeremiah who said that every NFL team has 75 interviews at the Combine, but only about 1/3rd of them are released publicly. So again, has it been confirmed we have NOT met with McConkey???

If we stay at 28, I will be extremely happy with Thomas Jr or Mitchell. I'll be happy with Worthy, Franklin, Legette, McConkey or even Coleman (yes, despite the 40 time... he was great in drills). That's a lot of players. And frankly, I'm not going to be remotely surprised if we don't draft at 28, trade back, and slingshot to get any one of those 7 players along with an impact defensive player. Or we very likely could also just draft defense in round 1 and see if any of those players fall in round 2, which they might. And then you double dip with Roman Wilson, Malachi Coreley, Brendan Rice, Javon Baker, Ricky Pearsal, etc. in the middle rounds. This draft is deeeeeep... get 2

2 things: 1) There is NO WAY we are trading up into the top 10 this year!!! This team is too CAP strapped and needs to get AT LEAST 4 or 5 major contributors long term out of this draft. 2) There is NO WAY we are using ALL 10 of our draft picks!!! Beane will 100% be making deals on our draft days. That said, anything more than a move into the late teens is too expensive. Right now I think we only trade up for 2 players: Brian Thomas Jr or Adonai Mitchell. No way Nabers or Odunze fall to the late teens. Otherwise stay in place and get Worthy/Legette/McConkey/Coleman or whoever McBeane decides on.

Please just let them make the tourney so I can get my March sports fix!!!

That also differs wildly from what Cosell himself was saying regarding Mitchell

Cosell's statements about Adonai Mitchell are pretty eye opening