transplantbillsfan

At the risk of the Mahomes talk continuing, a couple thoughts: Mahomes is a great QB and will continue to be a great QB for his entire career, health pending. BUT... He sat for a year behind a really good veteran QB under the tutelage of a Head Coach with tons of history in developing QBs. And for as much as he was labelled ad "raw" coming out of College, he had 600 more college passing attempts on a D1 team whose competition was significantly greater than that of what Allen saw in Wyoming. And you can go as far back as High School to find the lack of specialization or QB camps that all QBs who wind up in the NFL likely go through. Amazingly, Allen still has A LOT to learn in the NFL game. But you can see strides from last season he's made with regard to accuracy and especially decision making. Right now Allen is still learning while playing, and it's obvious. I don't know that Allen will ever be as good as Mahomes--who is certainly on the trajectory to be the best QB in NFL history statistically--but as cliche as this argument might be, Mahomes wouldn't have been Mahomes in Buffalo. He would have been forced into the starting lineup in 2017 when Taylor struggled in that Rick Dennison offense with a putrid OL and horrible WR corps and Mahomes wouldn't have been putting up the video game numbers he puts up in KC. Mahomes has had a great team and a great coach surrounding him the last 2 years. And he's been great. None of those things are mutually exclusive. Last year our Defense was great but our offense was bad, particularly at OL and WR. The Bills are still putting the pieces around Allen, and I don't think McBeane are done yet. But with those added pieces, you can SEE the improvements, even if the stats aren't reflected there. So while I honestly don't think it's reasonable to expect Allen to be better than Mahomes, over the span of their careers I do believe it's possible Allen can be the Jim Kelly to Mahomes's Marino. Give Mahomes the statistics and personal accolades. Give us the Championships... just make them NFL Championships rather than Conference

Good stuff. About the Lorax horse collar. I'm fine with it and I think he was aware of it as he was doing it. Henry had a lot of open field to his right and Alexander was pretty much the last line of defense. Without that 15 yard horse collar, I don't think he's able to tackle Henry who might've run all the way into the EZ.

Tangentially and you're the one clinging to it. Here... you must be lost:

Hey @Seven-N-Nine this thread is about Josh Allen's wildly improved completion percentage, not some other team's QB. Right now there's a gameday thread specifically for you to talk about Mahomes since the Chiefs are playing right now. Go over there and stop trolling.

I disagree, but it's just nitpicking at this point. That INT was a terrible decision on his part. Otherwise, against a fantastic D--which the Titans clearly are--Allen was pretty consistently making good decisions with the ball and throwing accurately. Hell, Knox had a drop, Sweeney had a drop, Knox had a pass knocked away on a great defensive play. Other than the INT, most (if not all) of the other 5 incompletions were good decisions on Throwaways by Allen. I thought this was a fantastic rebound game for Allen.

What are you talking about???? Other than the Interception, Allen was excellent. Please subscribe to gamepass so you're able to actually watch the game since you clearly didn't do that the 1st time.

No. Don't compare Duke with Darick Rodgers. Compare his situation with Fred Jackson. Fantastic preseason performance STILL overlooked by the coaching staff. Keeps workin and grinding. Gets his chance. And right out the gate proves he belongs on the field. Buh bye Zay...

Wish Allen didn't throw that pick, otherwise it was a fantastic game against a great defense. The sum of his play today certainly appeared to be much better.

The fact that he was promoted to the active roster in the first place is a real piece of evidence in and of itself considering the perspectives of some posters on him.

Would you?

Word

Better late than never It's going to be interesting to see how much time he sees on offense, if any.

BOOM!!!

McDermott disagrees.

Boom!!! Of course he's playing. Who's the guy who said McDermott would keep him on the bench for his confidence

You know the ole saying about putting lipstick on a pig... Allen isn't an idiot.

Maybe concussions are like drinking alcohol... everyone knows it's bad for you, but it's affects some people significantly worse long term than others. I drink every day and hit my head randomly rather frequently, but I'm still all right... despite what my wife says

Josh's ability to play will hinge purely on whether he clears protocol or not. If you try playing that game you're talking about because of his confidence and poor play last week, I would argue it has the opposite effect. He's a competitor. If he's healthy and kept off the field, that's more of a shot to his confidence FOR SURE than him MAAAAAAAYBE playing poorly.

It's this type of arrogance over here that's the reason I don't bother engaging. There's arrogance on the football board... but it's football and even there it's a watered down version of the bravado over here. I lurk here enough to see that much of the "sourcing" you guys over here is utter crap. But they fit with your own biases... so you roll with them.

That is what I assumed he meant, even though he basically said the opposite... maybe he should have paid more attention in school to those dishonorable educators he believes are just below tax collectors

Was "belies" really the word you meant? Engage with truth? That's a laugh. So much of the crap you guys dish out over here is either untruths, twisted truths, truths buried in swimming pools of bullcrap, or the occasional truth. Engaging in these conversations is something over here I typically avoid because of all the bullcrap floating around amidst the occasional truth. So what's the point? But if you're saying you're in on the bet (is that what you're saying?) then awesome. You can find out how honorable or dishonorable I really am if I lose.

What's up Troll? Man... your life must just suck. I couldn't care less if you don't believe me. @Deranged Rhino and I have a bet and I'll honor that bet. You wanna partake? You seem like you want a new avatar, too

I understand what you're doing, and I've got nothing against you. But I'm not interested in participating in that discussion with you for a handful of different reasons. 13 months and we find out who wins. Truth is, I believe if Trump isn't President in 2021 you guys are going to come up with more screwball excuses than Democrats did in 2017. Oh... and @TakeYouToTasker ... yes of course I'll honor my bet. It's a message board avatar. I don't care. But will @Deranged Rhino honor his bet?

Your obsession with me is oddly flattering

What heartache? This weird world in your head must be interesting at least, probably pretty miserable and lonely, though. What does not talking about any issue have to do with honesty? Do you know the definition of the word?