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Raved about him? Find where I raved about him, please. Not even getting baited into your bullcrap. There was a reason I told you Field vs. Trump. Still not clear who'll be in that field because there's a long way to go til the primaries, but I'm still very confident in that bet. You wanna argue about Biden? Go ahead. I'm not going to be a victim of the moment here. Enjoy your moment, if that's really what you think you have. Running from what? I've been honest. Have you? You're wildly mistaken. I'm not running from my support of WHOEVER the Democratic candidate is. To clarify my earlier positions, it was ALWAYS that Biden was/is the most likely Democratic candidate, not necessarily that he would be the BEST President among that field. But ANY of them would be better than Trump.

What was our bet again? Oh yeah, ANY Democratic candidate vs. Trump. Why do you keep forgetting? Someone will pound Trump like a drum, Biden or not. Maybe you should like stop trying to lure me over here. The hypocrisy is a little ridiculous. Apparently polls matter when they fit your narrative but are meaningless when they don't.

We all know you'd love for Allen to sit for another week so you can push your "Allen sucks, Barkley should start!" narrative all the way through the bye week. But sorry, if he's cleared, he starts. Honestly if he wasn't involved with meetings or anything today, I would have been more inclined to want Barkley to start just because of the missed practices for a young, still raw QB like Allen. But looks like he's back, so let him start. The Patriots are the #1 D in the NFL right now. The Bills are close behind. Yes, the Patriots made Allen look awful. But don't forget that the Bills D made Brady look pretty bad, too. Moving on...

Sounds like he's in what... stage 3? Good sign for starting on Sunday.

Oh My God!!! 31 pages of nonsense!!! The reality is that Josh Allen had one utterly atrocious game and 3 games where he showed a lot of promise Week 1 against a Jets team WITH Darnold and very hyped in the offseason and Allen and the offense essentially moved the ball up and down the field at will. The problem was turnovers, obviously. But at least half--if not all--turnovers were not on Allen, mostly or entirely. Yet, he led the team back in the 4th quarter down 13 on the road to win. And he was accurate all game. Solid. Week 2 against the Giants on the road again Allen was fantastic in the 1st half. Threw for like 220 yards in the 1st half alone. Threw and ran for a TD. 3rd Quarter clearly the entire offense just took their foot off the gas, which is something I absolutely loathe but you almost have to expect it from any defensive coach not named Bellicheck. And again, he was accurate. Really good. Week 3 looked like it was going to be a carbon copy of week 2 with the Bills jumping out to a 2 score lead and Allen throwing for nearly 200 yards in the 1st half. Then the 3rd quarter happened with some accuracy and decision making problems for Allen and next thing ya know the Bengals came back. I will argue over and over that's why you NEVER change your offensive gameplan unless you're forced to, and the ONLY time that happens is if you're multiple scores behind in the game. Yet, Allen still led a 4th Quarter Game Winning Drive. Not quite as accurate in this game as the previous 2, but still accurate enough. Solid. Sunday against the Pats was just utterly atrocious. Allen was awful. It was his worst game in the NFL for sure. Not Peterman awful, but awful nonetheless. Yet he still had his moments. The deep shot to Knox who made a fantastic catch on the drive to end the half where we missed the FG. The 1st drive of the 2nd half. Allen still had his good moments in the game, too. And when he was knocked out of the game, he had the team in Pats territory down just 1 score and FINALLY looked like he was at least capable of moving the offense down the field. Pump the brakes already on the idiotic calls that he sucks. If he sits out this Sunday because of his concussion, I'm fine with it because he has the bye to recover and I do like Barkley as a backup. But make absolutely no mistake about this, even if Barkley starts and lights up the Titans like he did the Jets last year, Allen will still be the starter when he's healthy, just like last year. And rightfully so.

So now this has derailed into a conversation about Mahomes? What the hell. Let's be objective about this folks. Here's Allen's season in a nutshell: JETS Game (this was in the Meadowlands WITH Darnold... lest we forget there was a good deal of preseason hype for the Jets) -Solid and productive and demonstrated a good grasp of the offense, BUT... -Terrible bounces of the football. AT LEAST half of the turnovers in that game just weren't on Josh, and you could make an argument that he wasn't primarily culpable in any of them. BUT... -Brought the team back down 13 in the 4th Quarter -Pretty accurate for the whole game GIANTS Game -Don't complain about this game. Josh was really good. -210 yards passing in the 1st half with 1 passing TD and 1 rushing TD -Foot completely off the gas in the 2nd half... something that I think goes to both Daboll and player execution across the offense. -Pretty accurate for the whole game BENGALS Game -Seemed the same trend as the Giants game. -Great 1st half with 190 passing yards and a TD along. -Terrible INT in the 2nd half. -Recovered though for the 4th Quarter Game Winning Drive -Pretty accurate for the whole game. PATRIOTS Game -We all saw that 1st half. Utterly attrocious. Horrible accuracy. Bad decisions. -Final drive of the 1st half we still got in makeable FG range -1st drive of the 2nd half the no-huddle was really working to help Allen and the offense get in rhythm... don't know why they stopped the no-huddle -Another horrible INT -Seemed to start figuring things out getting the team moving. -Concussed. Does anyone disagree with that assessment of those games? Now, which one of those is not like the other? So why the F&^%& are we FREAKING out over 1 bad game against the greatest coach in NFL history who has cut his teeth on eating young QBs alive? R-E-L-A-X

Weird failure in logic here using Robert Foster as your 1st example. Foster wasn't good last preseason. He earned the adulation you reference above because of meaningful regular season games. Who knows what's going on this year, but what he did in terms of play on the field was during the regular season. Great, so you acknowledge Zay can't catch, run routes, get open or run at all. So basically, there is absolutely no harm whatsoever in cutting him and seeing if Duke is better. Thanks for that

I think Cover_1 highlighted some excellent run blocking on his part during the preseason. That seems to be about the only reason we're keeping Zay right now. If Duke can run block nearly as well as Zay, he can be an every down receiver.

It would be pretty fantastic if someone could find info on this.

The longer he plays, the more he demonstrates he can't catch, the less we get in trade value. Wish we got rid of him before the season.

Zay sucks. He never... NEVER EVER comes down with a difficult but catchable pass. He failed to do it twice AGAIN yesterday!!! Once in the End Zone. Once on the low but catchable pass to him. He was advertised as a sure-handed WR out of college. He clearly isn't. He's had 2+ seasons. Time to move on.

No one loves Yeldon. But he was critical to our 3rd Quarter success yesterday and it was notable because it was a halftime adjustment Daboll clearly made. Sheesh. I said myself in the OP I don't like Yeldon. Apparently it's a requirement to ONLY bash or praise a player... no in between, huh?

Yes, I screamed at the TV last week when he fumbled that he should be cut, but here's an excerpt from Joe B's Athletic Observations on the game: They tried running the ball up the middle with Frank Gore, which worked to a degree but never took pressure off Allen (and later Barkley). Whenever the Bills dropped back to pass, the Patriots went into attack mode, and Allen didn’t seem comfortable — except for one drive. On the Bills’ opening drive of the second half, Allen seemed to temporarily graduate from his reckless decisions. It all had to do with a specific matchup that the Patriots couldn’t handle, and one that the Bills exploit until the second half. If you thought you noticed running back T.J. Yeldon in the lineup in the second half, that’s because you did. Yeldon ended the game with more time on the field than Gore. It was a pass attack personnel that presented problems to the Patriots all second half. Dawson Knox, John Brown, Cole Beasley and Zay Jones joined Yeldon, and the Patriots didn’t quite know who to key on in the formation. Yeldon wound up being the mismatch, and he finished with 68 yards on only four receptions. Had the Bills spotted this earlier, it could have led to earlier success. It also would have taken some pressure off Allen, because in those formations the young quarterback looked more confident in his reads and delivered the ball with a purpose. Now Allen, for reference, was as awful as awful can be in the 1st half... well, maybe not Peterman awful, but awful nonetheless. But know who his 1st completed pass was to in the 2nd half? Yeldon. In fact on that 1st drive Allen completed a couple passes for 42 yards to Yeldon, and it just really seemed to open up the offense. The snap count numbers above were pretty interesting. No, I'm still not the biggest fan of Yeldon. But what I'm hoping is that when Motor gets back in the lineup this week (hopefully), he helps open up our offense a bit. But I will say that I'm encouraged the team finally had a decent 3rd Quarter after all the putrid 3rd quarters we've had thus far. (Allen was 7/11 for 93 yards, an INT, a sack losing 11 yards, and 2 rushes for 8 yards with a TD... not exactly anything to write home about, but much better than the 1st half) Sure would be nice to put a whole game together.

Yes, I believed this was about to happen. But what frustrated the hell outta me was the way we came out in the 2nd half dominating with that fantastic no-huddle drive, but after that TD we went back to huddling. Everything from play calling to execution was fishy in this game. I really hope Allen crosses that threshold I still believe he's going to cross this year.

Ummmm... what? Allen is our starter

Can't say that yet. Need a few more games. QB play across the league is down so he still has a shot. Don't worry. I'm not hiding and won't weasel out of the bet.

New England has a pretty damn good defense too, ya know. I love Barkley as a backup, but it's so ridiculously premature to even consider benching Allen at this point. He was awful today. Next week is a new game. Move along.

It is

Out? Regardless, Zay is wasted space. Promote Duke to try something new.

WTF are you talking about bad in 3 of the 4 games? Watch the games, not the stat lines.

After 1 game against what was, is and will be for the season one of the best defenses in the NFL? No. Not remotely time to move onto talking about that.

Agree. Today more than any other NFL game he looked just lost and rattled. Yet, we lost by only 6 and had a chance to win. I'll call them growing pains for now, but obviously if we see multiple games this year like that we should all be very concerned. Hope the helmet to helmet knocked some sense into him. Yeah it was super weird. Was the game plan to constantly take deep shots? Didn't understand that. I also didn't understand why we didn't continue the no-huddle that worked so well on the 1st drive in the 2nd half.

But I think if Duke were in there he fights for those balls and 1 or 2 more aren't intercepted. I don't know how anyone can think Zay Jones is anything other than a waste of space right now. Another pass that isn't officially a drop and would have been a tough catch that he, yet again, just couldn't pull in. Honestly, if Allen is out next week and Barkley is in, I think the likelihood of Duke being promoted just goes up.