Logic

Sure. Just make no mention whatsoever of the cap being lowered by $20M due to COVID. That has nothing to do with it 🙄

Remember all the camp talk last year that Kumerow was roasting our DBs and making constant plays and would force a significant role on offense? Fun times. I’m fine with re-signing a core special teams player and great locker room guy who can play offensive snaps in a pinch, but I’ve given up thinking he’ll ever be more than that.

Davis won’t be there at 25. He won’t make it past the Chargers at 17, at the latest.

If Williams is on the board at 25, he’s who I want. I don’t care if he only plays half the season. A veteran stopgap can get you through til then. Williams is exactly — EXACTLY — what our offense needs. A Diggs, Davis, Williams trio with Knox at TE and #17 under center is the most lethal passing offense in the league. I’d also be happy with Olave or Dotson, but Williams tops my wishlist.

“Number one” or “number two” receiver are outdated concepts. The Bills run the most 10 and 11 personnel in the league. They have 3-4 receivers on the field A TON. Sanders, McKenzie, and Beasley may all be gone. Past Diggs and Davis, the Bills have nothing but unproven late round fliers in Stevenson and Hodgins. The Bills absolutely, positively need at least two new receivers. They need talented, viable, speedy pass catchers. They need to keep the offense viable, diverse, and dangerous. They need to keep pace with weapon-rich Kansas City. THE BILLS. NEED. RECEIVERS. It’s not an opinion. It’s a fact.

This. The Bills’ Super Bowl odds went up in Vegas after the Wilson trade. The Chiefs’ odds went down. Three, or perhaps all four, of the AFC west teams are going to be good, but they all face each other. They may all end up with 3-3 division records every year, while the Bills are 5-1 in the East. The West and North will be season long dogfights for the foreseeable future, while the East looks comparatively easy. That means a higher chance at the top seed for Buffalo, which is why Vegas gives them the top Super Bowl odds in the conference.

As someone on Twitter said… In terms of how this all affects the Bills and the AFC: if it turns out the AFC ultimately ships out a 26 year old Deshaun Watson and gets back a 34 year old Russell Wilson — who gets put into the meat grinder AFC West — that’s a net win for Buffalo and its yearly chances at the #1 seed.

I'm not so sure. Worst team in the division? Sure, someone has to be. Doesn't mean they'll be bad, though. The Raiders were in the playoffs just this year, and I think the new GM and McDaniels and Martindale will draft and coach them to respectability. Nothing earth shattering, but a 9 to 10 win a year type team.

I'm not so sure ANYONE would disagree with that. When Carr is the worst QB in your division...it's a hell of a division! Meanwhile, I'm quite confident in saying that the three kids the Bills' division rivals are pinning their hopes on at QB aren't in Josh Allen's stratosphere. Mahomes has six dogfights a year on his hands. Allen? Not.

1. The Seahawks are fools. They essentially chose 70 year old Pete Caroll over Russell Wilson. They should have fired Caroll two years ago and done everything they could to salvage the relationship with Wilson. High quality starting QBs are so hard to find, and they shipped one out for what amounts to peanuts. 2. I guess the Broncos are never going to have to draft a QB again. They can just keep scooping up the Mannings and Wilsons of the world when those players' teams are foolish enough to let them go. 3. Can someone check on Buddy Nix and see if he's even AWAKE? Other AFC teams making big moves, and the Bills are asleep at the switch as usual.

Poor Denver. Expect them to trade for Jordan Love now?

This Bills visit tracker (fair warning: I do not know how accurate it is) from Buffalo Fanatics certainly paints a picture of where the Bills are looking at 25.

I saw some speculation on Twitter that the "big name free agent" supposedly reaching out to Buffalo to set up a meeting is a pass catcher. That makes sense to me. Someone who is sick of catching passes from scrubs, who sees Josh Allen is a surefire way to revitalize their career and re-up their value. Perhaps an Allen Robinson type?

I see a lot of sentiment that things are going to stay just about the same in offense this year. While I agree that there will be lots of carryover, I think there’s gonna be more change than people realize. Ken Dorsey is launching his own play calling career here. He’s a human being with an ego and ambition. He’s not just going to blindly run Brian Daboll’s playbook. He WILL put his own stamp on it. And that’s to say nothing of the additions of Joe Brady and Aaron Kromer — two former NFL play callers that will have some say in the offense, as well. Terminology and key concepts and the most successful plays and packages from Daboll’s offense will stay, but the Bills offense is going to change. Count on it.

Dorsey’s Y/A those years led me to believe that while they didn’t pass MUCH, they did attack deep. It’s been a long time, and I’m not over here watching old U tape, so I can’t say for sure.

1.) No one suggested he'd bring back an outdated offense. Simply suggesting greater usage of tight ends and two-TE sets does not indicate an abandonment of Daboll's offense or a return to outdated modes of attack. 2.) This is a Bills message board, where people come to discuss the Bills. No football is being played right now. No players are being signed or drafted right now. The topic of what changes a new offensive coordinator might bring is relevant, timely, and was initiated during a relatively slow period of discussion for this forum. 3.) You're welcome to just...NOT REPLY to topics that don't interest you. I'm gonna keep posting about things that interest me. No one elected you "president of what's reasonable to talk about". 4.) Go make some pancakes or take a bike ride. You seem grumpy.

I'd say it's TOUGH to predict what he might do, but I don't agree that it's impossible, or not worth trying. Everybody has preferences and tendencies. Everyone. With a guy who's never been an OC before, it's a bit tougher to guess, but that's what this thread is about.

A further look into Chudzinski's offenses at the U and in his time with the Panthers show a strong preference for an aggressive downfield passing attack set up by a strong running game. Newton's two highest Y/A seasons came in his first two years, when Chudzinski had him firing the ball down field with great frequency. Given that Josh Allen finished 2021 as the NFL's most accurate deep ball passer, perhaps Dorsey has downfield passing on the mind.

Agreed. Chudzinski's affinity for tight end usage never went away when he became a pro coordinator, though. Both Cam Newton and Andrew Luck had arms no one would describe as "weak", and Chud continued to heavily feature the tight end. And if you say "well, having Greg Olsen made that easy", I'd counter by pointing out that Chud tried to push the TEs again with a Fleener/Allen combo in Indy. So it doesn't seem to me like it's JUST taking advantage of strong TE personnel that makes it a preference of Chudzinski's.

I posted this in another thread and then thought, what the heck, it probably deserves its own thread. I'm hoping anybody who has done some digging of their own into Ken Dorsey's past as a player and coach can bring some knowledge to this, as well. Let's try to piece together what changes might be coming to the Bills offense. I’ve been attempting to research Ken Dorsey’s background to see what he might bring to the Bills offense. The thing that stands out to me is that he played his historic college career under Rob Chudzinski. He also coached under Chudzinski in Carolina. While I certainly don't expect him to import the 2001-2002 Miami U offense (a now-outdated pro style offense), I do think that seeing who Dorsey learned under as a college player and young coach could be informative. When you look into the coaching history of Rob Chudzinski, you see lots of buzzwords that don't tell you much. "Multiple", "attacking", "tempo". Right. That's what they ALL say. One consistent thing about Chudzinski, though, is that he always leaned heavily on tight ends. From Shockey and Winslow at the U to Greg Olsen in Carolina, to attempting to make Colby Fleener and Dwayne Allen the focal points of the offense in Indy, there has always been heavy emphasis on tight end usage and, when personnel warranted, two tight end sets as a major part of the offense. Given Knox’s breakout season and the Bills' reported interest in Gronkowski (and maybe Rudolph), I expect Dorsey to feature the tight end more, and I expect more two tight end sets, particularly with a second tight end who is actually a threat, not just a Tommy Sweeney like afterthought. Health permitting, expect Knox to have an all-world season. Expect whoever is the Bills TE2 to have a significant role, as well. This may also eat into the targets to the slot WR, so Beasley/McKenzie/whomever may see less looks. I expect Dorsey to keep a lot of things the same for Josh, and given that the Bills already have a good offense, I don't think he'll radically change it. A decrease in the number 10 and 11 personnel in favor of more 12 personnel, though, is one change that I DO expect. It is also a change which may give a boost to both the running game and the pass protection, and may allow Allen more time and set up more deep play-action shots to Diggs, Davis, and hopefully a draftee or two. If anyone else has anything to add, please do so, but this is the best I've been able to figure so far.

I’ve been attempting to research Ken Dorsey’s background to see what he might bring to the offense. The thing that stands out to me is that he played his historic college career under Rob Chudzinski. He also coached under Chudzinski in Carolina. The one consistent thing that Chudzinski always did was lean heavily on tight ends. From Shockey and Winslow at the U to Greg Olsen in Carolina, to attempting to make Colby Fleener and Dwayne Allen the focal points of the offense in Indy, there has always been heavy emphasis on tight end usage. Given Knox’s breakout season and the reported interest in Gronkowski (and maybe Rudolph), I expect Dorsey to feature the tight end more, and I expect more two tight end sets, particularly with a second tight end who is actually a threat, not just a Tommy Sweeney like afterthought. I could certainly see this shift eating into Beasley’s usage and targets, for what it’s worth. Health permitting, expect Knox to have an all-world season. Just my opinion.

He’ll be a Raven or a Charger. Bills would need to trade up to get him, which I don’t see happening.

I look at Cole Beasley as a set of training wheels that our QB no longer needs. Now we can replace him with a shiny new accessory that increases our speed and ability to threaten a defense in multiple levels, AND save money doing it. Thanks for everything, Bease. Will always appreciate your contributions to Josh Allen’s growth.

Now that he has had the combine performance he has, I don’t think we need to bother discussing taking him at 25. He’ll be off the board by then.