Logic

I respect the hell out of guys who get out of the league young, on their own terms, with millions in their pockets. Feels like they’re beating the system a bit by making that kind of wealth and not having to sacrifice years of bodily and brain health just to hang on until “acceptable” retirement age. If I had made $35million by age 30, I’d have retired too. Good for Marpet.

I thought that GM Marv Levy and coach Dick Jauron made a brilliant move by bringing in Steve Fairchild to import the greatest Show On Turf offense to Buffalo, and that we had the personnel to successfully execute it with Lee Evans, Andre Davis, Peerless Price, Roscoe Parrish, and JP Losman. Thought we’d set the league on fire. Also thought Josh Reed was a very underrated slot receiver. Also thought Trent Edwards would be “the one”. Also openly didn’t want anything to do with Josh Allen. I could go on all day. Never listen to my takes.

It's gonna be a loooooong offseason.

And yet the Bills will STILL be the cheapest ticket in the NFL. Despite being one of the two or three best teams in the league. C'est la vie.

Do you ever just consider keeping ***** to yourself? Like, do you ever read over your post and go "yeah, ya know what? I just won't say anything". You should consider it.

This is the first season I've ever watched where I felt like the Bills absolutely should've been Super Bowl champions -- they were good enough to get it done and had the opportunity to get it done and didn't execute when it mattered. They were the best team in the league and their quarterback put up a historic playoff performance...and it wasn't enough. They didn't bring home the Lombardi. (Before anyone asks, I was too young to really remember the 1990 season). This will hurt for a while. Everything lined up perfectly for them to do it, and they didn't. Ouch.

You should just not mention to anybody that it's vegan chorizo and see how long it takes for someone to notice, if anyone notices at all.

I would ask what you're cooking, but I'm guessing Jimmy will be doing all the food prep for you -- what with his frozen pierogis and all.

Because nobody's more popular at a Super Bowl party than the guy who decides to swap out the sausage for a vegan substitute. 😆 (I know just the product you're talking about and agree that it's a good substitute and quite tasty. I'm just busting balls.) THANKS OBAMA!!!

The only thing wrong with what Payton said is this: He claimed man coverage across the board should've been the call, but the Bills had been burned on a crossing route that went for a TD earlier in this game. They also lost to the Bucs in overtime on that crossing route to Perriman. My point being that I think the Bills were quite scared of being beaten on a walk-off TD due to one of the Chiefs' WRs outrunning and/or confusing Jackson or Wallace in man coverage, as we saw happen in this game and also earlier in the season. I preferred Rex Ryan's idea: Zone coverage, not as deep as McDermott had them lined up, rush only two, and cover Kelce and Hill man-to-man underneath the zone coverage.

Is that what Harrison Philips looks like under the helmet these days? No wonder he was getting such good penetration this year.

It really is maddening. It's been a settled issue for quite a while now, but some just can't let it go.

Whole lotta self proclaimed construction and finance experts in this thread... Me, personally? I'm in camp "plan for and build whatever is most likely to actually get approved, funded, and built, and to therefore keep the Bills in Buffalo forever". Roof, schmoof.

All anyone who questions the legitimacy of the NFL's expansion into Europe needs to do is turn on any game that has taken place in London in the last few years. The stands are always full and the crowd always interested, even though the games that get sent there have, without exception, been completely awful. Not only that, but you'll see a huge variety of different team jerseys in the stands. It feels like I've seen almost every team's jersey represented in the stands in the NFL's UK showcase games. Personally, my favorite part of those games is how much more audibly appreciative the crowd is of a successful field goal than U.S. crowds. I guess they just appreciate a high quality kick more than us yanks 😆 But anyway, the "what's the point? It'll never take off" crowd is way off base here.

Meh. If you're bothered by competition being brought in, you're probably not the right type of dude for this team. The number of players on the team whose starting jobs are guaranteed is pretty low. Most guys have to fight for their position year after year. Spain's level of play never reached the "locked in starter who doesn't need any competition" tier, in my opinion. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Okay then. A simple question: Who do you propose as a replacement for Leslie Frazier?

Recency bias and fan over-reaction at their finest. The Bills have had a top 10 defense the majority of the time that Frazier has been a coach here. This past season, they were ranked 1st in pass defense, 1st in points allowed, and 1st in yards allowed. The defense was a big reason that they even won the division and made the playoffs to begin with. The "13 seconds failure" was admittedly terrible. By all means, let's let it outweigh five years of great work and high defensive rankings. I would love -- absolutely LOVE -- to know who Bills fans think is going to come to One Bills Drive and coach this roster to a BETTER defensive finish than the one they had last year.

I think you missed the point of my post. I am not disputing that Kromer is a good offensive line coach. I am also not hoping that the Bills suddenly employ the Roman playbook or become a run heavy team. I am simply saying that a huge part of the reason WHY the Bills were so good at running the ball when Kromer was last here was the presence of Greg Roman and his run scheme. To read through some of the responses in this thread, you'd think that Kromer's return guarantees a return to the running success we had in 2015-16. My point was that the playbook and the offensive coordinator played a very big role in that, and we shouldn't assume that just because the OL coach is returning, so will the success that we enjoyed running the ball at that time. It would be like attributing the Bills 2020-2021 passing success to Chad Hall. Did he play a part? I'm sure he did. Daboll surely deserves more of the credit, though.

I see a lot of glee about Kromer’s hire because the Bills had a great run game when he was here last. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems like a lot of that credit should probably go to Greg “best run coordinator in the league” Roman, who was the Bills OC at the time. I’m not saying Kromer shouldn’t get ANY credit, but unless he’s bringing Roman’s highly creative, varied, unique, league leading run playbook with him, I’ll temper my expectations a little bit.

I can’t remember where, but I remember reading that some athletes just unfollow all team/league accounts in the offseason as a way to unplug and unwind. Then when the season approaches, the re-follow all the accounts. In any case, it’s super weird to live an an era where who someone is or isn’t following on social media counts as “news”.

Simple question: The NBA has a lottery system. Do their teams still tank? Yes? Then what’s the point of this switch?

Man… I know I’m repeating myself, and that I’m not the only one who feels this way, but… GOD I wish we had drafted Creed Humphrey instead of Boogie Basham. It would’ve improved our o-line this past season and also allowed us to cut Morse this offseason and save a ton of money. He’s already a top three center in the NFL. Unless Basham becomes a legitimate pass rusher — more than just a 4 sacks per year rotational guy — taking him over a plug-and-play blue chip center was just an awful decision.

The differing timespans of NFL players’ careers are wild. Just look at that Miami Hurricanes team. Willis McGahee seems like ancient Bills history. Our quarterback was handing off to Frank Gore just two seasons ago. And now Dorsey is our offensive coordinator. wild.

As soon as I saw this report about Daboll, I thought to myself “welp, TBD is going to handle this very well. Lots of calm and rational discussion” Thread hasn’t disappointed so far. Shoutout to FilthyBeast, in particular. 😆