Logic

Harbaugh will have the Dolphins being perennial contenders if he signs on as head coach there. Oh well. They still don't have Josh Allen.

Can Ridley call logical defense with 13 seconds left in crunch time of the biggest game of the year? If so, bring him in.

I get the point. MY point is that there have been a few dozen instances since 1994 of a team going up by at least 3 and kicking the ball off with less than 15 seconds left on the clock. None of those teams lost. NONE of them. What the Bills did was historically inept and improbable. I understand why the kickoff mattered. But people also need to understand why the kickoff wasn't the main thing that cost us the game -- the defensive playcalling that followed it was.

Just wanted to say it was obvious from the broadcast what a loud and imposing atmosphere it was. Makes Josh's performance all the more legendary. This whole season was about gaining home field in the playoffs against the Chiefs, and the Bills couldn't get it done. I agree that going forward, the goal every year needs to be to ensure that our playoff matchup against the Chiefs is played in Buffalo.

Gosh. What kind of arrogant GOONS would weaponize donating to charity just to rub a game outcome in the opposition's faces?! Just kidding. Thanks, Chiefs fans.

I really, really hope this happens. Vance Joseph just seems like a worse version of Brian Flores. Please let this be true.

The only thing I'll say here is that if the Bills go for two there and DON'T get it, and the Chiefs kick a field goal in regulation to win it.....all of Bills mafia and the football watching world would be absolutely SCREAMING at the mismanagement by McDermott. The way things played out at least gave the Bills the CHANCE to win it in overtime. As it turned out, of course, McDermott mismanaged the ending and the Bills lost the game ANYWAY, but... I just mean to point out that when it comes to Monday Morning Armchair Coaching, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

It would make no sense for Dorsey to go to NY, where Daboll would likely be calling plays, Dorsey would be OC in name only, and would have Daniel Jones as his quarterback. Instead, he could stay in Buffalo, become the ACTUAL offensive coordinator (i.e. playcaller) and have Josh Allen as his quarterback. Seems like a no brainer.

For what it's worth, I find it highly, HIGHLY unlikely that McDermott and Frazier were "so flustered" after the kick that they couldn't coach straight. You can say lots of things about McDermott and Frazier's performances in that moment -- and I have. But so flustered they couldn't call plays? Sounds like an absolute lie and flies in the face of everything we know or have ever seen from these guys.

I like the structure of the first one. I'd tweak it slightly to reflect my own feelings: There once was a team named the Bills Who seemingly scored at their wills They played Kansas City But the coaching was $hitty And now I am green in the gills. - Or how about - For some unknowable reason In the biggest game of the season The coach lost his head and his team crapped the bed leaving all of the Mafia grievin' - one more - When football history beckoned with a tough choice the head coach did reckon, but he made the wrong call most egregious of all He blew it in just thirteen seconds

It is my opinion that people make way, way, WAY too much of the kickoff. The Bills shouldn't have lost REGARDLESS of that. Opposing team at the 25 yard line with 13 seconds left? Still no excuse to give up those defensive plays. Too much emphasis on the kickoff part, as if THAT was the most egregious error at the end of that game. The defensive playcalling on the final two plays of regulation is to blame. Coach can say all he wants about "execution", but rushing four linemen when everyone knew Mahomes would have to throw immediately is a coaching error. Rush two, drop nine, don't give so much cushion. Why do 10-year-old Madden players know more about how to handle that situation than guys like McDermott and Frazier? It's madness.

I'm of two minds about this. On the one hand, when evaluating a head coach, you can't just separate a few bad decisions in one game from the entirety of the season (and really, the previous few seasons, the building of this team and its culture, etc) that allowed the team to be in that game and with a chance to win it. In other words, it's easy to say "McDermott failed in a big moment, get rid of him!", but you're not looking at all of the moments throughout the season in which he did NOT fail. What gives the bad ending of the Chiefs game more weight than the absolute dominance in the Patriots game that preceded it? Is McDermott the guy whose team TWICE destroyed the brilliant Belichick, or is he the guy who choked in the KC game? He's both. If you're going to isolate a coach's bad decisions, it's only fair to weight them against all the GOOD decisions, the well coached game, the totality of his body of work. McDermott is a very good head coach. Does anyone here doubt for one second that if the Bills fired him, he'd be snapped up by another team immediately? The grass is always greener on the other side...until it isn't. Whatever coach you want to insert into the head job here...there's no guarantee that he has the team winning 10+ games every year to begin with. Don't think that an elite QB guarantees winning seasons. We've seen lots of great QBs' prime years squandered by being paired with lackluster coaches and deficient rosters. On the other hand...it IS fair to ask the following question: Is Sean McDermott the right coach to get the most out of Josh Allen's career? He's a detail oriented, player friendly (but still not a pushover) leader of men. He's built a great culture, demands accountability, and almost always has his team ready and playing well. At the same time, he'll never NOT be a defensive minded head coach. He'll never NOT have a steak of old school conservatism in his coaching. Does it make more sense to pair Allen with an elite offensive mind, and one who is not afraid to constantly push the envelope and be aggressive? Is this all just "prisoner of the moment" stuff? Is any of it legitimate? It seems PREPOSTEROUS to propose getting rid of the second most successful head coach of the Bills in the past 40 years. But...is it? Bottom line: IS McDermott the guy who can guide Josh Allen to a Super Bowl? I would say we certainly can't and shouldn't move on from him now. That would be insane. But how many more non Super Bowl seasons would it take? At what point what Beane/Pegulas throw in the towel on McDermott?

I agree. Let's hope the Bills organization can find a way to make sure he's not a Dan Marino or Dan Fouts or Philip Rivers. In other words, help the man win a title.

I generally never miss the Super Bowl. At this moment, I can't stomach the thought of watching another second of NFL football this year.

I think this is total speculation and that he was most likely just referring to regular roster turnover, coaches moving on, etc.

In my opinion, this is the second worst loss in Bills history. I still have to give Super Bowl XXV the nod for worst, simply because it was the Super Bowl. Other than that, though? This game takes the cake for me. Worse than the Music City Miracle. Here is why I view it as such: 1) There are games where you did the absolute best you could, but the other team just made more plays. Games you deserved to lose. Then there are games that you SHOULD have won, but in some improbable way, you snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. This was the latter. Bills should have won. Inexcusable. 2) The specific "13 seconds" failure is all the more astonishing and painful because our team is coached by two of the smartest defensive minds in the league. And yet, I'm convinced most 10-year-olds that have ever played Madden would've called more logical defense on those final two plays. Just brutal. 3) Daboll and Frazier are likely gone after this season. We'll probably have new (or at least somewhat) different offensive and defensive systems installed next year. Seamless transition is no guarantee. This was the last gasp of this "iteration" of the Bills. Josh Allen's big contract numbers are going to start kicking in soon, too, and it's going to get harder to retain our good players. 4) None of the teams left -- Bengals, 49ers, Rams -- were going to beat the Bills. Had the Bills gotten past the Chiefs, as they should have, they would have become Super Bowl champions. I'm certain of it. This was our year. This was the team. Josh Allen's moment to ascend to the top of the mountain and claim the "best QB in the league" title and win Buffalo its first Lombardi. Bottom line: Josh Allen had the highest playoff quarterback rating in the HISTORY OF THE LEAGUE this year and was backed up by the number 1 yardage and scoring defense...and it still wasn't enough to win a title. As such, at this moment in time, it's hard for me to picture the Bills EVER winning a title. If this performance by Josh and a defense that allowed 17 ppg couldn't get it done, who ever will?! Sure, you can say "we're young, we'll be back a bunch in the years to come!", and maybe that's true. All I can think of is Dan Marino's quote that after reaching and losing the Super Bowl in his second season, he assumed he'd be back many times in his career, but he never returned. Nothing is guaranteed in the NFL. Maybe by April I'll be ready to talk draft and think about the future. Right now, though, all I can do is stare at the wall and reflect on the fact that the Bills just blew their best opportunity at a title in 35 years, and that their perpetual lot in life seems to be stunning, improbable, epic, crushing defeats. I am numb.

I could be wrong, but isn't Josh Allen the best play-action quarterback in football this season? I thought I remembered seeing that in terms of completions, yards, and touchdowns, no one was better than him off of play-action. Presumably, now that the Bills can actually run the football fairly well, play-action will be even MORE effective.

Because I don't think Fitz wants to come back to be a backup, he won't be my answer. I get the sense that, at this point in his life, he'll either go somewhere where he has a chance to start, or he'll retire. With that out of the way... I'll take Sam Darnold. He and Josh are close friends. He's a mobile guy with a big enough arm to where you wouldn't have to change the offense when he was in the lineup. Put him the Bills culture rehabilitation program and see what happens.

Two of the more absurd talking head shows this week -- the one that Nick Wright is on (I forget what it's called) and the Skip and Shannon show -- both spent ten minutes discussing the game by talking exclusively about the Patriots. Whether Belichick will ever win another Super Bowl, whether the Patriots should build around Mac Jones or look for a more explosive quarterback, etc. I'm not surprised by it any more. I've gotten used to the fact that when the Bills win, the talking heads often view and discuss it as an indictment on the team that lost (or make excuses for said team) rather than as feather in the cap of the Bills for winning. Most of the talking heads shows talk Cowboys, Lakers, LeBron, Chiefs, Patriots...and that's about it. There are some exceptions out there, but it's mostly pro wrestling promos by clown personas that know nothing about the game.

Maybe so. That's the whole point, though. We DO have good moderation and rules and, therefore, a good set of members that don't talk about raping people all the time. It's a good thing.

That forum and the fans that populate it continue to be a vulgar toilet party filled with garbage people and nastiness. You can hardly get through one page of a thread without coming across all sorts of needlessly unsavory nonsense. Low brow hooligans. The armpit of the internet.

I respect that opinion, and I respectfully disagree with the notion that their physicality will matter much. I don't think that either their defense OR their offense can keep with this current form of the Chiefs and Bills.

Neither the Bengals nor the Titans are going to beat the Bills or Chiefs in the playoffs. Whoever wins the Bills-Chiefs matchup this Sunday will be representing the AFC in the Super Bowl.

This. Josh Allen is the best, most impactful player in the league. For as long as he puts on a Bills #17 jersey, the Bills will be Super Bowl contenders.

I’d also still like to see them add a quality guard to compete with Bates and Williams. But yeah, if they could add some speed at RB and WR, that would be optimal. Keep this offense loaded.