Boatdrinks

You can measure many things, but you still cannot measure the heart of a player. In some way, it always comes back to that.

This topic is well worn on this forum, but Mahomes most certainly was a top QB prospect that year. While it’s true that he wouldn’t likely have been the MVP if on the Bills , he’s still a great player. Mahomes is probably better than the player the Bills ended up with at QB. Trying to paint the trade down as a smart play is an overly rosy scenario clouded by Bills-colored lenses. The move was made because the Bills had a lame duck GM in place for that draft who should have already been fired. The Pegulas waited, and hired a HC before they had a new GM. McD thought it best to skip taking a QB ,so the new GM would have a say in the pick. While that makes sense, the whole scenario was created by Pegulas unwillingness to make a move in a timely fashion. It may work out, but Mahomes would still be an excellent player if he was in Buffalo.

Exactly. 12 wins is uncommon, and really the domain of the league’s elite. Can the Bills make the playoffs as currently constructed ? Sure, but there is a signicant leap from “ playoff team” to 12 win division champion. When the Bills have a proven superior QB, a proven stud WR and top OL to go with a strong defense 12 wins could be realistic. Right now, it’s a long shot.

I think the Thanksgiving game is just a cyclical thing where their “ number was up”. Last appearance was ‘94 and then mid 70’s OJ era before that. It just shows that the NFLschedule makers ( and possibly the networks) hold the Bills in extremely low regard as a national TV draw. They are a pariah right now. Only winning and or an actual star QB will change this.

It sure is. I believe even the Kelly led Bills reached 12 wins only 3 or 4 times in his 11 seasons at QB.

What did NE score in the SB. 13 points? The Rams D was fine, their QB was exposed by CHI and PHL. Use the Rams or CHI as a standard on defensive drafting, not the Pats. Goff makes 3 decent throws and the Rams are champs. Heck, a healthy Gurley may have done it.

What a choad...glad this idiot is gone.

Josh Allen posts an historic level season , Brady’s age starts to show with a major injury and missed time. That’s about it. Heck, even Mahomes’ amazing year in 2018 wasn’t enough to cover up KCs defensive deficiencies in two contests vs NE. I’m afraid the realistic answer is it doesn’t happen until Brady is done.

If Brown trade ocurred I’d say at least one PT appearance for sure. The Bills were a bottom of the league offense last year, and their star power is minimal. If they improve drastically in the scoring department, PT games will follow.

With the schedule released, it still looks like 6-10, 7-9 to me. With a huge leap offensively, 9 wins looks achievable but still wouldn’t call it likely.

The Browns “ tanked” for many years , acquired some good defensive talent over several more years, and may have finally hit on a first round QB after drafting 4 or 5 busts. Way to gloss over the facts , though.

Wagon, you make a fair point. In the past, previous success ( i.e playoffs) was required to be “ awarded” prime time games the next season. Outside of being a huge market team like Chicago, Giants or Dallas, that’s how it worked. Apparently that has changed. A young QB that had a good rookie year and a roster full of talent from years of high draft picks seems to be all it takes. Cleveland is not a huge market, and their team has been a punchline for most of the last decade or even two. This seems to indicate a shift in criteria, for those who are interested in such things. It still can be said, though that winning games is a surefire way to be on prime time the next year.

In the last 15 years or so, the Bills best chance ( due to futility on the field) at a prime time game was the Thursday night game. The league did away with the mandatory Thursday appearance to please the networks. Their best chance now relies on surprise success and a flex situation. In the current climate, with networks ponying up huge $$ and demanding ratings draws over duds, the Bills are further on the back burner than ever. Going forward it will be playoff teams , then the old standbys of DAL, CHI, NYG, and now probably both LA teams. TV markets and draws rule prime time football.

It hasn’t been a ticket driven league in many years. Those days were long ago eclipsed by tv money etc. The Patriots will sell out every home game regardless of when they are played. This is strictly about playoff positioning and nothing else.

Has zero to do with selling tickets, it’s about having an advantage at seasons end when the games are most critical in the playoff race. Mostly because there are less of them, and division record is a key factor.

When the Bills win more games, night games will follow. Their record in night games is pretty putrid recently. I’ll take 1pm

When have they last closed out the season with consecutive home games ?

The curiosity is the venue 3 consecutive years, not that they are playing division opponents.

They have shown an affinity for drafting athletic “ freak” type players, as well as moving around the board to acquire them. It’s not a far fetched scenario to me. Your take makes sense from a fan standpoint, because this is the type of thing they’re likely to do.

Sure, why not ? While I don’t find Asian women all that attractive, she’s okay looking. A rub n tug ? Yeah, maybe even drop a line if the chance were to ...err..arise?

Many throw around the “ BPA” term as gospel, but BPA on its own is pretty much a myth. Many of these prospects are graded very closely, as well as differently by various teams. The Bills selection will be dictated by a combination of factors. Their vision of how the team should be built , coupled with the cost of obtaining the specific players they covet to fit that vision. They certainly have different potential scenarios worked out, but their history shows they prefer specific players. Not some hypothetical BPA cliche. Look at their past drafting and expect more of the same.

True, yet Ansah remains unsigned. Likely the injury concern isn’t worth his asking price.

No, it’s not. It will happen with improved OL play, improved QB play, improved WR play and another year in the same offensive system. A truly elite defense can only help the offense, not hinder it.

We can, but it sure makes for compelling conversation around the bar. Talking about them in this way is part of the thrill of what we witnessed. If one can’t enjoy it, well I concur. It’s their choice, but a curmudgeonly one to be sure.

So the revelation that Tiger banged a few chicks in his spare time changed it all..hmmm. Ruined the dream for you ?