oldmanfan

You are ridiculous. Absolutely and totally ridiculous with an agenda that will not allow you to have any sense of rationality about the QB of the Buffalo Bills. Allen made a mistake throwing back across the field. He made that mistake against the Pack. And what does this mean to you? That he has learned nothing at all this year. What crap. What utter nonsense. What drivel. Anyone with any sense of objectivity can tell that after coming back from injury, Allen has done better at going through progressions, etc. But he has learned nothing to you, because you don't know what you're talking about. I stop here to remind you and all who read this, you are the guy who wanted to trade an entire draft to get the greatest QB of all time: Jameis Winston. You have no real ability to judge QB play in the NFL but continue to pretend you do. Yes, Allen's stats are lower. That might be because he has receivers that keep dropping the ball on hi, Again, take away the drops and throw aways and he's at the magical 60% completion that so many continue to harp on. And my math is of course factual as well. His stats might also be lower because he has taken run lanes defenses give him and use his legs to make plays. And the ratio of run to pass will likely change as the young QB with 8 starts to his name gains experience. But not to you of course, because it would upset your agenda.

You know, enough is enough. Allen is a rookie QB, and as such prone to the occasional dumb play, like the first pick he threw. That is a typical dumb rookie mistake and he needs to learn from that. But as for the rest? This accuracy garbage? He threw one short pass badly to a RB, and everyone harps on that. What about the perfect screen to Murphy the opening drive? Funny how that doesn't get mentioned. And then you have someone here who thinks he's a QB savant deliberately making things up about the throw to Clay over the middle where the guy once again drops a pass put right on him, and somehow makes that into it's Allen's fault. That is total BS. I honestly don't know what games some people watch around here. Watch the games, not just ours but others. Allen when given time in the pocket and/or making time by scrambling has had no problem hitting guys. But yet this accuracy thing gets brought up time and time again, presumably because he had a 50% completion percentage yesterday. He was 18/26. Now, how many throwaways did he have? Off the top of my head I counted 3. Now, how many flat out drops did he have? I can think of three right off the top of my head: the aforementioned one to Clay, a flip screen to Shady that he flat out dropped, and the throw to Jones where he drilled it right into his chest and he drops that. So if you take those into consideration his accuracy is fine and his completion percentage is 60%, the magic number for so many around here. And then when you scan around other games and see other QBs miss some throws, even veteran HOF types like Big Ben and Brees, the agenda of some becomes clear. That agenda? Some don't want the Bills or their young QB to succeed for whatever reason. People clamor for the Bills to finally draft a QB high, and they do. They get a kid - a KID - who has a lot to learn obviously, but also has skills that are rare in the league. But that's not enough. We have supposed supporters of the team that want to pick apart every single throw the kid makes as if a single throw will make all the difference in whether the kid makes it in the league. We have people making up things to support their preconceived notion that he won't be good, a notion they decided on even before the draft. Why there are some who don't want the kid or his team to succeed, I will never understand, unless you're a secret Fish or Jets or Pats fan.

Your idea does not take into account injuries which are a prime reason you have lower tier guys or scrubs called onto the field.

What you're asking for is pretty much what they had to start the season. Then Davis went nuts and Gaines got hurt. Your model does not take injuries or roster restrictions into account. Where is your evidence they put all their eggs into one CB? White is a star and on a rookie contract. Johnson looks like a really good slot and Wallace shows promise. How is what they are doing different that what you want?

Again, you can have your opinion but the video shows otherwise and several folks who have looked at it tell you the same thing. You refuse to accept it because you have this self aggrandizing image of yourself as a QB expert, and because you don't like Allen and would rather see him fail so you can talk about how you were right. It is clear to all. As clear as the fact that he hit Clay in stride on this pass and Clay would still be running if he could catch a football. oh, and the throw against the Texans was a bad throw. Not anything like the one today.

It is true the rule changes particularly on kickoffs diminishes really big plays. But I would be interested in your stats background. I have taken grad level stats and can tell you that the stats thrown around in football are commonly off base. Advanced multivariate analysis would be needed to properly analyze things given the multitude of factors that influence any single play

Just looked at it again. Ball hit him inside the right hash on the 41. He dropped it on the 42 and tripped just outside the left hash on the 43. When a play takes you from the right hash to the left hash within two yards that is what geometryteachers refer to as horizontal vs. vertical as in a post pattern. And the bucket would be the hands of the receiver. Which, to reiterate, were hit. And to reiterate further he dropped.

You want 5 starting caliber CBs, correct? Now ignoring the idea that drafting such quality means you'd spend a ton of capital on one position vs strengthen other areas, what happens when one gets hurt? With your plan you would not even have anyone on the roster familiar with the schemes that could fill in. Your plan is actually the antithesis of what you want to highlight.

Actually he's angling across the field, the ball is thrown right in front of him in stride and he dropped it. You don't know what you're looking at. He was not going straight downfield.

I expect that will be the first post-season decision. No more Crossman.

Screen to Murphy to help them get a TD in the first drive. But of course you don't remember that. I also just went back and looked at the play to Clay. He is coming across the field. You don't throw over the shoulder on that pattern, you put it in front of him so he can catch in stride. Which is where the pass was. At waist level, not anywhere near below. And he dropped it. Then Clay held his hands to his head as if to say how could I have dropped that ball? You continue to express yourself as some some expert on QB play when the reality is, let's just say, not.

It was not below his waist. You are full of it and making things up to fit your agenda. Everyone here recognizes it.

Yep. And he hit him right in the hands. And he dropped the ball. Like he almost put the ball through Zay's chest. And he dropped the ball. I have no problem saying Allen needs to continue developing. Why do you not understand his teammates have a responsibility to do their jobs?

I didn't look the exact number up because I don't need to do so to find your idea silly. Let's say they have your 5 guys. One gets hurt. As happened with the team this year. Then what? They have to fill in either from the practice squad or others practice squads. Your model does not take injury into account, nor does it take into account reactive measures by the opposition like running the ball. And so on.

I get it now. Receivers should never have to adjust even a tiny bit to catch the ball, right? When the ball hits you in the hands at your waist it's partly on the QB? Come on, that's just laughable. And yes Allen is still a work in progress.

Mods, repetitive and an agenda. Against the TOS right?

Nope. Hit the ground, and the ground popped the ball out. No way it was a fumble. Should have won that game. But your best player got burned one time and it cost them.

Did we have 10 opening day? Yes if I recall correctly. Did some get hurt or do a stupid retirement? Yes. Did they have to then bring more in? Yes. Yiur oosition is ridiculous. To meet your plan you would have to have a third of your active roster be DBs. That cannot happen and fill every other position adequately. And you criticize others for not being able to plan?

Clay is disappointing. I hope he is not on the roster next year. And Allen does need to work on some of the touch throws. Why though some choose to only focus on negatives is mind boggling. He has some skills that are rare.

He was pretty clearly down.

Confirmation bias on your part. He missed a couple and made a couple. It's an area he can improve upon. He also has skills that are hard to find elsewhere. But it's more fun to focus on the negative isn't it?

Your words were that if they plan at all they've planned poorly for the last 15 years. You lumped folks together, not me. Your fixation on DBs is amusing. You do realize that DBs make up the highest percentage of players on an active roster? I think today we had 10 active perhaps? Let's say you make it a dozen. Where do you subtract the other two? Go with one TE? Two RBs? Hope no one gets hurt elsewhere? It is like the QB situation this year. You get multiple injuries at a spot you then have to fill in. As long as roster spots are finite that is how it works.

Another guy that lumps 15 years onto a HC and GM that have been here two years. Between this stuff and the completion percentage meaning everything crowd it makes me wonder how many folks here flunked math in grade school.

Yep

Oh you need to see it now? Well excuse them for not meeting your needs. Your presumption that they don't plan is kind of silly.