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There's absolutely not 16 organizations where he's a super bowl winner lol You might as well just say Sean McDermott sucks and so does our organization hahah because football is the ultimate team game Our turnover differential over the last four seasons is ludicrous .. and Josh's had plenty of turnovers besides last year This organization drafts and develops talent better than 28 other franchises .. everybody agrees we have a top-notch front office and scouts and executives and coaches It takes all of that to win.. there are not six other NFL franchises that are better ran top to bottom than the Buffalo Bills who draft and developed better than the Buffalo Bills Again in that same draft two quarterbacks got drafted ahead of Josh because they were considered safer.. the Jets and the browns did not believe they can develop Josh Allen... Because all the scouts agreed he was the most talented he just needed time to be developed If it was surefire that in 3 years you're going to get the best player in the world they both would have drafted him.. but they didn't because their organization did not think they could develop someone with those flaws, and they took a lesser talent who was a cleaner prospect That's the smoking gun that Josh Allen is not a surefire Hall of famer everywhere.. because nobody doubted his talent.. what the browns and jets doubted was his ability to correct flaws
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The vast majority of people employed in football do not agree Every GM and scout and coach knows that situations matter.. we have Josh at a 10 out of 10 Could he be a six or a seven out of 10 in some other places? Sure 99% of NFL players never reach their full potential because of circumstances.. aka the organization around them... Josh has maybe five or six places where he becomes the best player in the world 25 other teams he's a talented quarterback with a lot of flaws like Jay Cutler https://www.espn.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4792204/would-tom-bradys-career-have-been-the-same-if-not-drafted-by-patriots This article by a former player sums it up.. some organizations world class, some shouldn't be coaching Pop Warner That is what it's like all around the NFL
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There is zero NFL coach that would say sitting a quarterback is bad for his career If you have the ability to sit them it is only going to help professional quarterback.. it's the one position where getting thrown to the fire does not really help Josh was playing like a chicken with his head cut off backyard football... If he got the Patrick mahomes treatment he 100% would have came out year two much sharper That's one thing that's not debatable to me.. a talented quarterback who sits is never going to hurt them.. Blake bortles threw for 4,000 yards and 35 touchdowns year 2.. much better than Josh Allen's year 2 stats...you would think that would be signs of development.. but flash in the pan seasons happen.. anybody would be happy with 35 touchdowns and 4,000 yards.. but they didn't develop Blake bortles anymore.. Trevor Lawrence has gotten no development in Jacksonville It takes an entire organization years to develop a quarterback... Years Josh isn't the first big quarterback with a rocket arm who can move.. there are plenty of busts of quarterbacks who are 6'3-6'4-6'5 who had cannons who could move.. with a good work ethic There's a reason why destination has always meant everything in the NFL... Would Josh be a superstar with harbaugh's or Pete Carroll or Reid? Sure! They are A+ coaches who bring A+ staffs And culture 25 other organizations is he the best player in the world? No , he doesn't have enough support and development from those organizations to reach that point.. Josh relies on other people so he needs to rely on the organization... There are external factors to how good Josh Allen looks Go bills !! Enjoy every game there's only x amount left!
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I was just throwing it out there... I think the bills after Josh Allen if we still have the coaches in place can develop a solid quarterback Josh Allen has the tools that if he was groomed and coached correctly could take him to world class.. but again the word is groomed and coached correctly Again the browns and jets passed up those world-class traits because they obviously didn't think it was developable... If it was cut and dry he's not falling to seven John elway passed him up.. he was not a cut and dry Hall of Fame player and I am very thankful that it's turned out this way But if it was that simple that he was going to be the best ever.. he's not getting passed up The Buffalo Bills organization absolutely deserves some credit.. of course Josh has a terrific work ethic but so do most NFL players.. the organization does deserve some credit
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As in develop the next kid to be a Hall of famer? Probably not a high odd because Josh had the talent he needed to be groomed .. can they develop a tyrod Taylor level guy who can win games? Yeah I believe that All the scouts admitted Josh Allen had the highest ceiling and the most talent.. what they all doubted was the ability to correct all those flaws because it's really hard to do and it takes a team at the NFL level If the browns and jets thought they would be able to correct those flaws they would have drafted Josh because even their scouts would admit he had the most talent... Taking a cleaner prospect in Baker kind of shows they didn't think they could develop that high-end talent Baker floor was good QB.. 29 touchdowns out the gate ... Josh's floor was lower and they clearly didn't think they can get him to that ceiling.. If it was 100% cut and dry they can get Josh Allen to his ceiling they would have drafted the 6'5 mobile gunslinger over the 5 ft 11 quarterback who is good but not as talented The Jets also went with a cleaner prospect in Sam.. because news flash developing a quarterback is very tough
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Hello every single quarterback has bust potential.. from the number one overall pick to the 7th rounder how they get developed from 22 to 27 is Paramount and then it also takes external factors.. quarterbacks actually rely on other people Mac Jones just didn't have what it takes to follow up the greatest of all time... How can the Packers go from favre to Rogers to love? It's because they know how to develop quarterbacks as a organization.. they let them sit and learn and they groom them .. developing quarterbacks is absolutely an organizational thing Which is why from day one I said McDermott sitting Josh Allen was the smartest thing.. a quarterback can only grow from the bench .. a full year would have had Josh correcting his flaws even earlier Everything McDermott is done has been terrific in developing Josh
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They haven't had any stability that would have developed Josh consistently over the first three to five formative years.. they have no culture... They haven't had consistent coaching Nothing that shows they could correct flaws.. remember Baker was a prospect with a lot of game experience and his flaws were minimal for a rookie prospect He needed minimal development.. he just needed steadiness.. they couldn't even give him steadiness No I have zero belief that the browns would have been able to develop Josh Allen to the point where they are super bowl contenders while correcting his flaws.. I don't believe it at all Just like the Jets.. look at the roster they put around Sam darnold the year 3 the kid they traded up to make their franchise quarterback.. Jamison crowder was their number one wide receiver hahaha By that time we gave Allen diggs and brown and Beasley .. Could the Ravens have developed Josh Allen? Absolutely I have zero Faith the browns would have.. because they had a ready-made prospect and they couldn't even stay the ship.. I have zero doubt they could have developed somebody who needed years of development Baker came in a 29 touchdown quarterback a rookie record and they still couldn't right the ship... I have zero Faith they could have developed Josh Allen If they thought they could have developed him they would have drafted him because all the pundits believed he had the highest ceiling... But he needed tons of development.. which sometimes never happens... They obviously didn't think they could develop him and neither did jets
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The legend of the game is past Bills players not actual football legends It's just the name
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People judging draft picks after three games is Ludicrous Hairston is going to be a stud and everybody is going to be eating crow This site has the best and worst of Bills fans lol sometimes the takes are insane
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Is a CFL-NFL merger coming in the future?
Buffalo716 replied to Einstein's topic in The Stadium Wall
Not gonna happen CFL will not allow an NFL franchise on Canadian territory And the CFL doesn't have the payroll to pay for an NFL team -
Young dudes love creating lingo Dion started saying that when he was 27 26... Just a young dude being hip
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The Case of the MIssing Dog - you couldn't make this stuff up
Buffalo716 replied to Beck Water's topic in Off the Wall
A dog got loose on my street a few days ago and got hit by a truck in front of my house 🥺 -
Random talking head says something about the Bills
Buffalo716 replied to Simon's topic in The Stadium Wall
While some kickers get drafted in the second or third round occasionally And even Sebastian janikowski went first round 30 years ago.. history says not a smart move if a GM wanted a kicker they would just draft one.. and it would probably be in the 6th 7th round No GM is actually going to trade a second or third round pick for a place kicker The expected value gained is not as high as the value given up 9 kickers over 90% 19 over 85% It's not like QB where there are 3-4 top guys... and everybody is searching for one In a league where there is 15 or 20 guys who can make field goals consistently no GM is trading a second or third round pick for a kicker Drafting a kicker in the third round might get you fired if it doesn't pan out I definitely wouldn't draft a kicker in the second round.. absolutely wouldn't trade a second or third round pick for a kicker 19 kickers over 85% field goal percentage last year... Sure was Sebastian janikowski draft in the first round 30-plus years ago? Yeah , dumb decision still That Florida State kicker drafted in the second or third round a couple years? Terrible decision Brandon Aubrey went undrafted.. most kickers go on drafted or go in the 7th or 6th round And there's 20 of them who are capable of kicking 85% in the NFL.. No GM is trading a second or third round pick for a kicker Brandon Aubrey realistically at the highest would be traded for like a fifth.. no GM would ever call up another NFL franchise and offer a second round pick for a kicker They would just draft their own.. because you can get a world class best kicking prospect in the sixth round -
I don't think the word arm talent correlates with just pure arm strength.. in fact people will still use the word Arm strength The whole arm talent word describes the entirety of his ability to throw.. can he do it from the pocket and on the run? Can he change arm angles to get it over or around defenders and still be accurate? Can he drop a ball over a linebacker under a safety? All of that encompasses what they describe arm talent not just the strength of his arm not every quarterback has the ability to easily drop arm angles and still be accurate.. not every quarterback throws a good ball on the run.. not every quarterback can make the throw Josh made the Josh Palmer versus the Ravens.. can you deliver a strike while getting hit hard staring down pressure? Can you throw somebody open? Thats arm talent when they talk about it
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One is a general term one is more formal 0 1 3 5 7 9 technique have all been used for decades.. something like nose guard is still used but it's more informally used
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Even the most talented person in the world will not be able to do much behind a sieve If you're offensive line is a bunch of turn styles nobody will look amazing Josh's Ascension also coincides with the growth of our offensive line.. this is a salary cap League Give me the big boys up front and let Josh make players around him better opposed to giving him tons of fun toys to play with and a Joe burrow line The bills absolutely know what they're doing
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John elway didn't win a super bowl till his penultimate season Warren Moon never went to a super bowl Between Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees 36 seasons two super bowls It's harder to win than you're making it out to be
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Do The Bills Have A Passing Game Problem?
Buffalo716 replied to BillsFan130's topic in The Stadium Wall
Knox and Kincaid are solid weapons Cook and Johnson Shakir , Coleman , Palmer, Moore can are also solid NFL players 8 guys Josh can throw too and he can create himself This offense has plenty of options -
The League's Top Ten Coaches All Ought to be Fired
Buffalo716 replied to hondo in seattle's topic in The Stadium Wall
I did actually get where you were coming from cuz I know you're not that dumb lol Absolutely which is why I have always been in the pro McDermott camp because to think if we get rid of him that we can't get worse is crazy It's a highly stressful job.. like make your hair fall out go gray early divorce your wife type of stressful job Truly from top down it is an organization thing because you need support from everywhere and everyone And like plenty of the players in our organization say.. we are the most prepared team in the NFL And watching a lot of football and being around it my whole life.. I don't think that's a crazy statement Like McDermott could always get better every coach can get better.. do I think he's light years better than what he was 6 years ago? Absolutely Do I think his message has gotten stale with the team unlike most coaches who have been at places 8 plus years? No This team absolutely loves Sean McDermott and I'm very happy he's our head coach -
NFL Division Winner Predictions (Week 3 Edition)
Buffalo716 replied to G0BILLS's topic in The Stadium Wall
If you went down to the buffalo Creek casino and placed all eight of those winners divisional wise parlay $10 would bring you back $205 That's a pretty nice list that has some legs -
NFL Division Winner Predictions (Week 3 Edition)
Buffalo716 replied to G0BILLS's topic in The Stadium Wall
Should be a fun NFL season!!!