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I don't think I ever once said he didn't play on a stacked squad. He did, and he absolutely benefited from it But you can only play with who you play with, and Florida state had the best recruiting classes in the country at that time, and guess who rose to the top of the depth chart at quarterback for that stacked program EJ Manuel He absolutely deserves credit for winning the job and helping lead his team to victories

Ward and weinkes squads in those years did not have more offensive yards than EJ Manuels squad Ward didn't throw for as many yards but a few more TDs Manual sits fourth all time in yards and like eighth all time in touchdown at fsu The dude didn't become an NFL superstar, and he wasn't a college Superstar, but he absolutely was a solid college player Apparently if you're not an all American you're not solid lol EJ could has started for well over 80% of division 1 schools AJ McCarron was a very good college quarterback. Nobody ever said he was the best but he was very good in college Collage and pros is a completely different game

Fans overreact about how good and bad players are. I just scout football players I don't care about where they go to school or allegiances EJ Manuel was not a good pro quarterback. He had a better college career than 95% of every college quarterback that ever lived The dude won a BCS game at Florida State and made an all ACC team. Jameis Winston being better has no bearing on if EJ was good or not in college Jameis Winston is just a superior quarterback Every single division one athlete with a scholarship has enough talent to go to the NFL if they go get the right coaching and playing the right system And EJ had a better career than 95% of them. Objectively I can say EJ Manuel was a pretty good college quarterback

Manuel was an all acc 2nd team qb Help the team win 12 games for just the third time in it's historic history 25-6 as starter , including fsu's first BCS bowl win since 2000 And prior to Winston , was the leader of FSUs most prolific offense in program history Was also MVP of senior bowl iirc He was more than decent in College. He did what fsu asked very well and the results were W's

FSau won because they had the best recruits in the country at that period WITH the #1 overall pick QB and Heisman winner They probably don't win without anybody but Jameis... Last play of game td to kb..

James Winston is a better quarterback. And he was a full year removed from high school

I watched him play at fsu a bunch. I'm a football scout all I do i watch football He was a draftable qb. Not the first round , but the 4-5th absolutely A not good QB doenst even start at a program like fsu. There are around 120+ D1 starters. You couldn't name 25 better than EJ Manuel that year That alone doesn't make him bad. He wasn't a good pro but he absolutely was a solid college qb. Joe burrow did nothing for 4 years too You're comparing him to a Heisman trophy winner in jameis who had a even more stacked team than EJ Fans calling any division 1 athlete is funny, because they are all supremely talented. Let alone one who is an NFL draftee

I think that's full of hyperbole bro There's not FSU fan who won't admit EJ Manuel had a good senior season. he also won you guys like two orange bowls And had like 68% completion his senior year with over two to one touchdown interception ratio Was he a superstar? No, but the dude was one of the better college quarterbacks in FBS that year

Not even any salt, cuz I care about my sodium intake

Are you up @Royale with Cheese I'm eating protein powder and deadlifting cus I'm a ****** machine Do you even bruce lee bro?

I don't wake up at 4am to take protein powder lmaoo More like 3 am

It's wasn't totally McDermott's scheme. It was McDermott and Rivera McDermott and Frazier have completely different play calling tendencies and tweaked their own scheme which coaches have figured out how to attack The tendencies are known. When teams when know you will run plays , it's easier to call plays to counter them 4 years with the same combination leaves lots of clues to what your doing

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The scheme itself is fine Their play calling within it has become very predictable. They've had a lot of success the last 3 years, so they really haven't had to change much Other coaches have looked at their film and have finally figured out how to attack its play calling. because the bills are very predictable on first and third Downs now They just need to switch up the play calling a bit and become less predictable and things should smooth out

I also grunt when I'm lifting cuz I want everybody to look at me

I put protein powder in my milkshakes bro I take protein powder with a side of sausage I wake up at 4:00 in the morning I take protein powder bro Do you even lift bro

110% of the time bro

He's been a 3-4 outside linebacker

Yea he's a stud NFL guy for sure

Don't act like you get any cred cuz he's an Ohio State cat! I actually watched him play high school football!

I don't think they necessarily have to change up the scheme The scheme is fine. Their play calling within it has became predictable I think they need to change up their play calling within the scheme to confuse defenses a little bit more because what used to be confusing is now routine to other defenses Instead of calling what they usually do on first down call what they call on third down on first down

I was a 31' In my playing days , I've been sending pics of my waist to maybin for years and he's never replied

Yea coming across the greatest defensive end in nfl history isn't hard lol There will never be another Bruce Smith

McDermott has only takeb over play calling duty once in 4 years The chargers game his first season

I'm just a bill