GoBills808

The guy you're quoting was saying Allen was 'terrible' vs Ravens and Jackson was 'good' vs Titans when they both played about average-below average...wouldn't waste your time LOL no, that's a drop. That's always the receiver's fault

I'm not convinced they'll win their division.

Yeah he was like 50% passing w/an INT and a sack fumble through 3 quarters But people see what they want

Jackson imo will be seeing a good amount of cover3 shells and straight flat four fronts, the Ravens' read option is defendable when your LBs stay home and don't bite on the mesh

If you don't like laying Bills odds parlay w/Ravens under is the play Jackson and Roman by proxy just will not sustain the level of production they hit last year

I don't see how Cleveland -120 is any better than Buffalo -165 @8.5 If anything I'd tease the Browns under and get BUF over 8.5 at something better

I think the real question is does he make hay facing CB2s and I think the answer is unequivocally yes

lol nobody thinks his statistics are good

In my mind there are only questions at QB and TE (obviously QB is the big one) looking at the roster on paper that would prevent a championship run. I don’t believe you need a great offensive line anymore, just a decent one. Ours is decent enough. Daboll has a lot to prove for me and the whole squad needs seasoning winning playoff games. Imo the pieces are all in place

I agree w all this and I'd say the only thing that's stopping us from competing for a championship is experience at this point.

Fight me

Don't bring up these obscure QB statistics! We only want commonly used ones like total yards that put Allen at 23rd...you know, a whole 38 yards behind the league MVP.

I put him overall in that 16ish range at current but we aren't that far apart I expect him to be a clear cut top 10 guy this coming year

I don't know if using QBR and passer rating is the best way of analyzing a quarterback whose receivers dropped passes at the rate ours did. Both rely way too heavily (imo) on completions and comp% Nor is gross yards a great metric for QB performance. ANY/A, a very good QB metric, has him at 23rd overall which is where I'd put him comfortably without factoring in what he gives you on the ground.

They didn't have to suffer a down year moving contracts around iirc I think it's fine to have big expectations. But I'm not thinking they need to do anything specific to earn my thumbs up this season. As far as a competitive playoff team, I'd say they were that last season. They lost a fluke wildcard game on the road.

Not at all as in they didn't have to wait, or not at all as in we don't resemble them?

Seahawks needed to wait and they're the SB winning team we resemble most imo

I think it still has to be Ravens as of right now but Steelers will be a tough out

I asked for examples of these statistics so we could have a discussion. The reason we’ve arrived at this point is because you decided to deflect instead of support your statement. If you won’t provide the statistics you cited there’s really nothing more that needs to be said.-

Found it for you, to be fair it was a whole 60 minutes ago Well I think YOU’RE just arguing for the sake of it

I could have sworn you also mentioned how Allen was ‘bottom third’ in relevant statistics too. Iirc it was in the same comment.

It’s pretty common to respond to a comment about ‘scoring points’ with a very commonly used per attempt statistic Were you hoping for YARDZ and TDZ perchance

this guy needs to post more imo

18th in TD% next

Since PFR started tracking drops nobody has had a worse drop% than Allen last year