Steve Billieve

I would be convinced all these free picks were a dream if I didn't see how many picks the pats* got. With all the great players we brought in during free agency the whole comp system seem oftly arbitrary.

My opinion is that you don't need scientific evidence to be reasonably certain that blows to the head can cause harm. So where the science is at, now or then, doesn't really matter.

I don't know the particulars about the case, neither does anyone else on this board. The idea that you couldn't know about head trauma resulting from being hit in the head bc the science wasn't in yet has nothing to do with the particulars of this case.

No. I'm saying that it's ridiculous to say that an entity has no knowledge of potential head trauma in football. The particulars of that knowledge and what actions, disclosures etc were undertaken as a result are details I'm not privy to.

I'm not saying I disagree. I just don't find arguments like "we didn't know hitting you in the head over and over would do any harm" credible. I think that the parents knowledge of potential harm is a much better argument. I think I just did.

I think the case could be made that letting pre-teens get hit in the head over and over again is negligent. We've known that getting hit in the head is bad for a very very long time.

I feel like I'm dreaming

Lol, totally agree Seems like a better plan than mills.

I smell some comp picks coming out way for once . . .

Sounds about right

It would be nice to have him in training camp to see . . .

I don't know, I think he's better than a number of QBs who will be starting next year.

Is it ridiculous that I think RI agreeing to this confirms he's put his past behind him?

I think we'll be better. I know we could be better. Our problem last year wasn't talent. I don't want to speculate on what contributed to it, but we could have been a lot better with the talent we had going into the year. We didn't loose anyone who was all that helpful to us last year. We still have the draft.

Yep, we cut him saving 12 mil and he signed for 8.

Would it be criminal to pick the 80s?

Yeah . . . super secret . . . Is that always true though? I don't think the Suh and Dareus deals raised the price on DTs

My thoughts exactly!

Now that we've cleared out the dead wood can we change the title of this thread?

That's all I can think of too, but it seems like something else has to be involved. It looks like playing length has been in free fall starting around 2008-2010. Something different had to happen to explain this. Players have been getting better since sports were invented. I guess you could say its reached a tipping point and injuries/awareness are causing players to opt out but to me (without any data) its seems like teams are the ones responsible for players not playing in monumentally more significant numbers. Although it seems very reasonable, has also been put forward, that there are more quality players available now. I don't think that is something new either. As more people play football and it gains in popularity the bell curve gets bigger and more people are in the middle, this should have a relatively continuous effect. Perhaps its the new CBA that is to blame. Although the decline started around 08, that could definitely be explained by natural fluxtuations. Things didn't really start getting significant until 2010, perhaps precipitated by the lockout and new CBA. Were there any major changes that would stop teams from signing there own? I don't really know the CBA but it seems like this has to be something new, something that was changed.

Yeah, I was sort of wondering about that. Does one season really make all these teams ignore the reason that no one was willing to sign him 2 years ago? They knew then that he could play but he still had zero interest. It seems like that would significantly effect other teams offers but maybe I'm being naive and it was more about pr of bringing him back.

That's a bunch of nonsense. It's in his own interest to stay with his team. His money makes way more money than he does in a year. Once he retires he will still be a sought after commodity able to command ridiculous amounts of money. All his best financial plays are PR ones going forward.

Yep. Referring back to the OP, running backs also take those hits, but often miss a couple of games along the way, but most teams are able to plan on that a little and carry two pretty good running backs. Don't QBs have smaller pads too?

Yeah, the cba was definitely negotiated without that in mind, so it makes it tough to implement. That shouldn't make it impossible though. Another problem might be lots of strategic renegotiations to lesson the cap amount. You mention the nba, has it been effective in keeping players on their team there? I also wonder why you need a lot of cap space when you're mostly interested in drafting and retaining players.

Yeah, I agree, but I don't think the biggest obstacle is money at this point. Can we trust him to play? After last year I kinda doubt it. Plus we don't want to give overdorf a coronary, I'm sure Marios money has already been spent in everyone's mind.