Steve Billieve

to be fair the bills are probably among the tougher logos to draw.

Maybe I was being a little hyperbolic? I do wonder though, who would rank higher all time Aaron Schobel for DE or Brian Moorman for punter?

ha! best player of the 00s's behind fred! Probably my proudest purchase. Kelly was obvious, Spiller was a miss, but Moorman was everything I dreamed he could be! And boy did he have a lot of opportunities to boot it!

Kelly, Moorman, Spiller. Things have obviously been going downhill. Living in clemson country if you're wondering.

Russ Brandon to GM didn't feel good. Cutting Andre Reed, Thurman Thomas, and Bruce Smith left a sinking feeling in my stomach as well. Don't know that infuriated is really the right word though.

I think the most interesting signings will happen once we cut down to 53. With everyone nearing 100 players there's probably some good reasons why we haven't signed anybody that's all that talented who's out there right now.

My point wasn't that it should be merged. My point was that it should be in its own thread. Initial posters were complaining about thread creation, although some deleted their posts.

Yea i know. Can't help pointing out that their evidence runs exactly counter the point they're trying to make.

It seems like those of you who are linking multiple thread guidance didn't bother to read it. Not only does this seem to fit the criteria given for a new thread, he also explains best procedure should you think the thread is redundant, and it doesn't include talking about it in thread.

How would this not qualify as: Draft Round 1 Pick 7: Josh Allen thread ----- "Josh Allen Game Film" or "Josh Allen Analytics" or "Josh Allen OC Interview" are likely to be considered sufficiently different to separate, even though in practice discussion within the threads will tend to coalesce on the same handful of points and may get merged later on.

Maybe good decisions are made independent of convenient narratives and useless dichotomies.

Hey, no fair trying to count silent evidence. How else are we going to manufacture points to make.

I don't think Peterman is any good but I will be shocked if this guy is better.

thanks for trolling irv. we better go find them.

its funny how many times i've heard that Russ is just recently no longer involved in football operations. I'm guessing this time sticks though.

Still got Shaq to set edge. Seems like we're drafting a ton of lbs.

I was wondering when we were going to start getting comp pick threads. now I know. Who do you think we'll take with this years comp pick?

There is only one correlation to NFL success and the wonderlic and its a negative one for CBs.

https://www.tigernet.com/update/Ray-Ray-McCloud-switches-numbers-might-play-CB-28472

His primary position in college was as return man. This will probably be his primary position in the nfl. There's speculation he can do other things like play cb or whatever else. No one is talking about his enormous upside as a WR and so I believe its safe to say that "nobody thinks he was drafted to play WR". That doesn't mean its impossible for him to play some WR downs. I'm sure he will (occasionally) if he succeeds in the league, but that's not really what you want him doing or why you took him. My mother in law is a huge Ray Ray fan because he would make some special plays, often of a gimmicky nature. I don't consider this sort of stuff as "playing wr" even if that's how he might line up sometimes. Steve Tasker contributed plenty at wr when you google him that's the position that comes up for him, but nobody thinks the bills kept him on their roster to play that position. I don't know why the Bills drafted him, but there's lots of reasons that stand out to me and non of them are because they want him as a wr. Maybe they want him to play corner. Maybe they just see a special athlete, maybe they think he'll be a good returner. Like I said I don't know. But to me it seemed that lots of people were talking a lot of **** about the pick as they compared him to other wr still available, so I wanted to point out that his WR skills (almost definitely) aren't why we picked him.

seems like people are complaining b/c they think they can spot a better wr on the board, just pointing out that's not why they drafted him . . . probably.

but they didn't draft him for that reason. they drafted him for other reasons.

Lots of teams keep a spot for their returner. and lots of teams don't like using one of their marque players for the job either. He's played cb before. Clemson put him out there on kick offs not just returns. Was part of a lot of gimicy plays for them too. And just because he will probably never be a starting wr doesn't mean he can't contribute at that position occasionally.

If you get a someone to contribute with a 6 that's a win. I don't care if they're just a longsnapper. He doesn't just do returns on st either.

He would excel when he had a full head of steam ahead of him with returns and reverses and stuff though.