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Flutie was a lot less effective as the 1999 season wore on. The book was out on Flutie by that point, opposing defenses had figured him out and really limited him. That said was RJ really a better option than a solved Flutie? I'd say marginally, his ceiling was higher than Fluties. And RJ did walk off the field with the lead.

We got close to Tannehill over and over. Titans O-Line was holding all night and only got called for it once. And on the play it was actually called it was a phantom call. Even on the first drive the Refs assisted the Titans with a no call for holding. Jerry hughes was about to sack tanny on the first 3rd down of the game and instead got held. Tanny converts. If the Refs call the hold the titans end up punting from deep in their own end zone. Probably cost the bills 20 yards of field position, which potentially turns that opening drive FG into a TD. Small things like that keep happening and add up to a loss by a couple of inches in the 4th quarter.

Moss was the one who was terrible last night. Seemed like every time we went to Moss the drive died. Moss was pathetic on the INT, he jumped in the air in panic and took himself out of the play, when he was in perfect position to either make the catch or break up the int.

I think EJ gets a bad rap for being over drafted. If he had been drafted in the 3rd round as a developmental Qb like he was graded and then thrust into the starting job as a rookie due to injuries to the real starting QB we would have thought he did pretty good. EJ has most of the Bills Franchise records for rookie QBs passing stats and he played 2 fewer games than Josh in their respective rookie seasons. If EJ had been drafted and developed by McDermott and Daboll his career could have turned out very differently. Instead, Nix reached and took him 2 rounds early in the 1st and EJ got thrown to the wolves with little support from the franchise with a head coaching change 2 years in. Marrone -> Rex.

A rushing defender is prohibited from forcibly hitting in the knee area or below a passer who has one or both feet on the ground, even if the initial contact is above the knee. It is not a foul if the defender is blocked (or fouled) into the passer and has no opportunity to avoid him. Both of Mahomes feet were in the air. So why was the Oliver hit a penalty?

Correct, or if the passers feet were not on the ground.

The amount of force is subjective, but luckily in this case it's entirely irrelevant as both feet were in the air, which is not subjective. Edit: Which makes this a legal hit as the hit was both on time and Mahomes was in the air, making the contact with the knees irrelevant.

Oliver was not guilty. Read what you posted again, "forcibly hitting in the knee area or below a passer who has one or both feet on the ground". Mahomes had both feet in the air so hitting him in the knees was perfectly legal.

Tired of this narrative that both RTP's were bad calls and that the refs equally sucked for both teams. https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/roughing-the-passer/ https://twitter.com/MarkEnnis/status/1447408923615576068?s=20 Roughing the Mahomes was called on #91 Ed Oliver. Despite the words coming out of Collinsworth's useless mouth the hit was neither late or illegal for "below or at the knees" 1. The hit was not late as defined by the rule. Oliver had launched himself while Mahomes still had the ball and makes contact without taking any steps after the ball was released. "The Referee will use the release of the ball from the passer’s hand as his guideline that the passer is now fully protected; once a pass has been released by a passer, a rushing defender may make direct contact with the passer only up through the rusher’s first step after such release" 2. The hit area was not illegal, Mahomes was in the air with neither foot on the ground, and Oliver was being "blocked/fouled" into a lower point of attack by the O-line(Oliver was held by the chiefs o-lineman and sort of tackled from behind). "A rushing defender is prohibited from forcibly hitting in the knee area or below a passer who has one or both feet on the ground, even if the initial contact is above the knee. It is not a foul if the defender is blocked (or fouled) into the passer and has no opportunity to avoid him". #50 Rousseau also hit Mahomes on this play, and was technically late as he takes 2 steps. He was also blocked/fouled from behind by the chiefs o-line. Roussea basically just loosely wrapped up Mahomes's legs from behind and bumps his head into Mahomes butt. Not enough force or violence to it to constitute a penalty This was called holding 1 play before the roughing on Allen. https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1447416098446401537?s=20 https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1447417193654734850?s=20 There was an egregious missed holding call favoring the Bills on this play before the roughing takes place, can't find a clip of it. Guess the refs decided to let it go after the phantom holding on the previous play? 1. The hit was late. Clark takes one step after Allen released the pass and makes contact with Allen(legal). He then takes a 2nd step to start to drive Allen into the ground(Late, illegal). 2. Clark illegally drove Allen into the ground and also landed on top of him with his bodyweight "When tackling a passer who is in a defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after throwing a pass), a defensive player must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down or land on top of him with all or most of the defender’s weight. Instead, the defensive player must strive to wrap up the passer with the defensive player’s arms and not land on the passer with all or most of his body weight." 3. #97 also dog piles onto Allen's legs 2-3 steps after Allen had released the pass. Not much force involved, but way late and unnecessary.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/roughing-the-passer/ https://twitter.com/MarkEnnis/status/1447408923615576068?s=20 Roughing the Mahomes was called on #91 Ed Oliver. Despite the words coming out of Collinsworth's useless mouth the hit was neither late or illegal for "below or at the knees" 1. The hit was not late as defined by the rule. Oliver had launched himself while Mahomes still had the ball and makes contact without taking any steps after the ball was released. "The Referee will use the release of the ball from the passer’s hand as his guideline that the passer is now fully protected; once a pass has been released by a passer, a rushing defender may make direct contact with the passer only up through the rusher’s first step after such release" 2. The hit area was not illegal, Mahomes was in the air with neither foot on the ground, and Oliver was being "blocked/fouled" into a lower point of attack by the O-line(Oliver was held by the chiefs o-lineman and sort of tackled from behind). "A rushing defender is prohibited from forcibly hitting in the knee area or below a passer who has one or both feet on the ground, even if the initial contact is above the knee. It is not a foul if the defender is blocked (or fouled) into the passer and has no opportunity to avoid him". #50 Rousseau also hit Mahomes on this play, and was technically late as he takes 2 steps. He was also blocked/fouled from behind by the chiefs o-line. Roussea basically just loosely wrapped up Mahomes's legs from behind and bumps his head into Mahomes butt. Not much force or violence too it This was called holding 1 play before the roughing on Allen. https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1447416098446401537?s=20 https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1447417193654734850?s=20 There was an egregious missed holding call favoring the Bills on this play before the roughing takes place, can't find a clip of it. Guess the refs decided to let it go after the phantom holding on the previous play? 1. The hit was late. Clark takes one step after Allen released the pass and makes contact with Allen(legal). He then takes a 2nd step to start to drive Allen into the ground(Late, illegal). 2. Clark illegally drove Allen into the ground and also landed on top of him with his bodyweight "When tackling a passer who is in a defenseless posture (e.g., during or just after throwing a pass), a defensive player must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down or land on top of him with all or most of the defender’s weight. Instead, the defensive player must strive to wrap up the passer with the defensive player’s arms and not land on the passer with all or most of his body weight." 3. #97 also dog piles onto Allen's legs 2-3 steps after Allen had released the pass. Not much force involved, but way late and unnecessary.

Brady hasn't won anything without being surrounded by HOF level talent on offense and defense. As soon as the talent level around him in NE dropped he bolted to the most talented team in the NFL who just also happened to need a QB. Belichick had an uncanny ability to draft good players late in every round of the draft and then morph his game plan to play to his players strengths. Some years the pats had a dominant defense, sometimes it was the offense, sometimes it was both. Sometimes they'd be a run heavy team, sometimes they'd be a pass defending team. He game planned into whatever maximized the talent on the roster that season, and could even change it up based on opponent game in and game out. After 20 years the talent pool finally ran dry and the wheels fell off, and Brady jumped ship. Brady at his peak wasn't good enough to beat Eli Manning in the Superbowl... twice. Brady won all of his Superbowls either before or after his peak. Strange that the "goat" couldn't win it all at his best, but was carried by his team on multiple other occasions.

I'd like to see Gabe Davis getting that target share that Sanders is currently receiving. I know Gabe hasn't been healthy, but once he's back to 100% he should be our #3, he proved himself in that role last year. Sanders should be a great #4, but he's really letting us down so far as a #3.

You're one of the youngest boomers. You probably have more in common with the older cohort of Gen X than you do with your fellow boomers. 1946-1964 Boomers, 65-80 Gen X. Millenials 81-96. GenZ 96-2012. These dates aren't exact, just broadly accepted. Eli Manning drafted in 2004 was the first time a Millennial was Picked #1 in the draft. Edit: Ricky Williams is GenX

Yes. The 90's SB losses and the music city illegal forward pass were soul crushing and I haven't recovered and never will. The Jax game was embarrassing and made it clear we had no business being in the playoffs and made me question if McD was a good enough coach. There was no expectation for future success after that game, if anything there was more doubt. The Texans game again made me question if we deserved to be there after a cream puff schedule, was McD good enough, and was Allen good enough. And again just like after jax I had more doubts than hopes. After that loss to KC I was already looking forward to the offseason and next year. There was no bitter disappointment or doubt anymore. Allen and McD have proven they are for real and can grow. Although the AFCCG stage was too big for them this year, they've gained that experience and will be able to handle it next time.

A concussion is when your brain slams into your skull, your skull slamming into something external is not required, but is common. Watch that play at full speed and watch how fast his head whips down. He's concussed.

It’s too windy and Josh is too amped to keep taking these deep shots. Just take more of the 10-15 yard passes that we’ve been converting all game.

You forgot 2 Stanley cups. They won 2 with Mario in the 90’s and 3 with Crosby. 5 Cups

Ben has far more experience in inclement weather games than Josh. I’d think bad weather would favor the Steelers. The last time we played the Steelers in the snow at home Leveon Bell had 236 yards on us and Ben threw 3 ints

I'm saying it's on the offense to burn a lottttt more clock in the second half and stop giving the opposing O short fields. You don't need your O to keep scoring after you have the lead if they can burn clock. Like the Rams game, look at the Bills offensive possessions after taking the 28-3 lead, and before the game winning drive. 2 plays -8 yards, 0:34 3 plays 0 yards 1:35 6 plays 27 yards 3:09 Turn the first 2 of those into 5 minute drives where the Bills don't even score and the game is over. 28-25 Bills win. Look at the Arizona game after going up 23-9 3 plays 6 yards 1:09 3 plays 14 yards 1:52 6 plays 5 yards 3:17 4 plays 8 yards 2:37 1 play 0 yards :07

When the Bills offense can't sustain a drive and goes 3 and out or turns the ball over every possession they're essentially giving the opposing offense unlimited possession of the ball. The Bills end up essentially on defense for the entire 3rd and 4th quarters. When you give the opposing offense unlimited time they are going to score. This team needs to figure out how to sustain long drives in the 2nd half. They don't even need to score, just drain the clock. That's what winning franchise's do, they get a lead and then they keep the ball so the other team can't come back. Where are the 8 minute 15 play drives in the 3rd or 4th quarter when we have a lead? Instead we use up 45 seconds and give the ball back to the other team.

I was yelling HOLDING at the TV for this. The Titan got his hand inside our gunners armpit and was yanking him away. I couldn't believe they didn't call it. Offensive holding on the O-Line is apparently no longer a penalty on either team. The refs were decidedly in Tennessee's favor, not that it mattered, The Bills shot themselves in the dick so many times there was basically no way they win this game. But at least it wouldn't have been a blow out if the reffing was better.

But divorce rates are in decline. Young people are having more success with marriage than previous generations. Boomers and Gen X are the 2 worst generations of all time when it comes to divorce. Millennials are bringing the numbers back down. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/state-marriage-rates-90-95-99-17.pdf

Did everyone forget Rian Lindell??

Cousins is on pace to beat all of Jim Kelly's career passing stats. Different eras and all that, but saying he doesn't have HOF potential is a little short sighted. He put up 10 QB numbers this year with no team around him.

Cousins has been a top 10 QB in the league all 4 seasons he has played. He was top 3 last year. He has never had a strong supporting cast. The redskins are a bottom 5 team without cousins. He has carried them and made them look a lot better than they are. Cousins made DeSean Jackon and Peirre Garcon look good, not the other way around. If the Redskins let Cousins go they are looking at a 2-3 win team next season, unless they pull another top 10 qb out of nowhere like they did with Kirk.