BuffaloHokie13

Might I suggest the opener against VT at FedEx Field? He was facing a quality secondary anyway.

No, he sucks because he let his ego convince him to trade up for Tebow.

Your original post said 'top QBs' which Tanny is not. Agree that one not making sense in the first doesn't mean you don't keep looking on day 2 tho.

Tannehill shouldn't really count either, if we're being honest.

Definitely a negative trend. Also potentially correlated with the amount of talent on the field around him. We've had discussion about my system previously, in 2015 he was a 78.7 (13th), 2016 he was 72.9 (14th), this year he's 69.4 (17th among starters with Watson, Rodgers, and Palmer having higher ratings prior to injury).

I understand it's gross career numbers, but I was shocked to see that Eli's combined rushing and sack yards came out to -1,900 yards over his career

It's the only thing our OL was competent at.

Fine. I'll show my work. I felt silly pointing out that no established starter has lost more yards on the ground than Eli. Tyrod's Career Averages: Pass Yards per Game: 202.1 Rush Yards per Game: 36.3 Sack Yards per Game: -14.2 Total: 224.2 Eli's Career Averages: Pass Yards per Game: 238.8 Rush Yards per Game: 2.5 Sack Yards per Game: -11.5 Total: 229.8 I literally included Pass Yards right before Total Yards. Who reads pass yards then reads a different number and assumes it's pass yards again?!? There's nothing remotely deceptive about the post. I included pass yards separately and specifically.

I didn't provide WR stats. What other yards did you expect a QB to get that are positive? Total is exactly that. Passing + Rushing + Receiving - Sack. If I excluded something it wouldn't be total.

And yet we are 21-18 when Tyrod plays QB for us.

For his career he's at 202.1 Passing and 224.2 Total yards per game. I assumed you could figure that out by the words immediately following the numbers, but clearly I was mistaken. 100% true news. Fake news would be attributing the 4 losses we've sustained without Tyrod to Tyrod's win%. I most certainly do, and have since I started tracking stats. Feel free to check my QB Rating threads from this year. Every QB's passing and rushing stats are accounted for. If you're curious, Brady's at 263.5 Pass Yards per Game and 265.8 Total Yards per Game over his career.

My total yard per game number subtracted sacks, in case you were curious why there was a difference.

We can only hope Gilmore is featured this Sunday.

My original statement was "about as good". And that's exactly what they were.

And adjusted for opponents (DVOA) they were both 9th.

Both finished as the 9th ranked offense by DVOA in their respective years. 2015 Bills were 12 in Pass & 2 in Run 2014 Ravens were 6 in Pass & 18 in Run

Is that some sick Belichick joke because Tom's been our achilles heel throughout the drought?

They were about as good as the Bills offense in 2015.

For the 'we want better than a .500 QB' crew, Eli is 110-100 in his career (0.524), Tyrod's 21-18 (0.538). And it could be easily argued that Eli has benefitted from better defenses over that span than Tyrod's had backing him up. Speaking career numbers: Eli: 59.8% Completions, 238.1 Pass Yards per Game, 7.01 YPA, 229.8 Total Yards per Game, 4.6% TD%, 3.1% INT%, 83.8 Passer Rating, 5.93 ANY/A TT: 61.5% Completions, 202.1 Pass Yards per Game, 7.19 YPA, 224.2 Total Yards per Game, 4.4% TD%, 1.3% INT%, 93.5 Passer Rating, 6.34 ANY/A Clearly Eli has 2 rings and is a Super Bowl MVP, but those numbers are awfully close considering one was drafted 1st overall and 1 was a 6th rounder.

Ah, I hadn't looked at it with a loss to Cincy and a win against Detroit for the Ravens. Good call.

Do you want Eli?

They'll trade out of 1st overall with someone wanting a QB and then select whoever's left at ~8

Teams of interest for Buffalo to end the drought imo are Buffalo: Need to win 3 to get to 9-7, likely Colts, Dolphins, & @ Dolphins. Baltimore: Need to lose at least 2 games. Most likely candidates are Detroit, Pittsburgh, and Cincy. Tennessee: Need to lose 3 games. Most likely candidates are Rams, Jaguars, and one of their back to back west coast road trips (for now I'll say the Jimmy G led 49ers). Kansas City: Need to lose at least 2 games. Most likely candidates are @Jets, Oakland, and Chargers Assuming all 4 end up at 9-7 in the way I've laid out, Baltimore and Buffalo make the playoffs on tie-breakers. If Tennessee doesn't slip up on one of their road games and goes 10-6 we need Baltimore to lose all 3 and end up 8-8.

Depends how much they want and how many more holes we create. Jettisoning Tyrod saves about what Gaines will cost, and likely means likely signing a Vet QB (~$5M). Kyle's probably another 7ish. That leaves ~$16M for Preston (or another starting ILB), Matthews (or another #2/Slot WR), Johnson (or another nickel CB), and 7 others. And that's if we don't get into tinkering with the OL.

Looking through our 2018 salary cap and free agents yesterday was actually kind of worrisome. Lots of departures everywhere except the OL (where I wish there were departures :lol:) 1 RB, 1 CB, 0 ILB, 1 DT. Safe to assume there will be a good amount of turnover yet again this offseason.