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Rosen had a hot tub in his dorm room and has spoken out against the NCAA when it comes to how they use student athletes, do not compensate them, and generally do not care whether they succeed in life beyond college or not. He also had some tweets/comments about the presidential race. To my knowledge he hasn't had any issues with the law and hasn't been accused of anything either outside of being outspoken on certain issues. Some call that off the field issues because he made the news. To me he's a college kid enjoying college with the hot tub, and he isn't wrong about the NCAA racket.

If Washington Franchises him we aren't taking him. Plus, even if they want to tag him he still has to sign it, which he may not.

Throw in draft picks to who? He's a FA

0 draft picks will be used to acquire Cousins, unless they promise him they'll use them on OL/WR, which we need anyway.

Exactly where I'm at, tbh.

He's one of only 3 QBs who have finished top 10 in 2015, 2016, and 2017 (obviously not finished this year yet, but he's there right now) in my rankings. The other 2 are Brady & Brees. Stafford finished top 10 in 15 and 16, but is just outside right now this year.

They're holding onto him for a reason. Give him a full offseason with us and I think he takes it.

Yep. Worst case is the settle in both instances and end up with a combination like Bradford and Rudolph. More likely, though, is that they sell out in either FA or moving up in the draft.

He's been very good from an efficiency standpoint, and maintained that efficiency at a high volume. I like him quite a bit.

When I said 'more important' what I meant was I'd rather have grass than a dome

And Taylor Gabriel in FA

As far as I know most retractables need to have a decision made prior to game time and then they can't change it during the game. Surely it's rained a few of the times they decided to keep it open...

Need a dome to even have a chance at a Super Bowl, which would be fantastic for the city. Retractable would be my choice so they could choose to have a weather game if they want. More important than the dome though, get a natural grass field and put heated coils underneath.

And their GM was just replaced for it. Dorsey has enough picks to be happy. He doesn't need to trade out.

Dawkins, Incognito, Wood, Groy/Draft Pick, Draft Pick/FA/Connor McDermott

People seem to be taking the triple franchise number and running with it, which is silly.

Generally acceptable range = 6'2"-6'6". Prototypical = 6'4". They are, in fact, different things. Very few people care if a QB is within 2" of prototypical. Lots of people care if you're 4" shorter than prototypical. Heck, a few people even made a big stink about Osweiler because he was 6'8" or whatever. Far enough away. Yes. 6'0" is far enough away, and he could measure a moderate amount below that. There is a very real concern that he measures 6'0" or under. I've heard a rumor as low as 5'9" and another around 5'11". You don't like the info, that's fine. I still don't see why you're pulling Rodgers into it when his own school doesn't even report him as 6'2".

And Kenny Britt is already cut.

No, I never said that. I'm also not concerned with prototypical size. There is a generally acceptable range, and the fear is that he is outside of that range. Who has mentioned prototypical size other than you? As I indicated before, when people bring up size concerns with Baker Mayfield they aren't just saying he's smaller than prototypical. They're saying he's 6' or less. I really don't know why you're clinging to this so hard. If he measures 6'1" he'll go in the top half of the 1st. If he's 6'0" or under he'll likely go near the top of the 2nd, or in the late 20's via a team trading back in before the draft gets back to the QB needy group. None of that has anything to do with how he performs once he's drafted, but if i'm putting money on it I'm quite comfortable putting it on the side of he's not Rodgers, Brees, or Wilson. His on-field resume is very good. Combine workouts probably mean very little for his draft stock. How he measures and how he interviews are easily the most important things left for him. Since I don't get to interview him, I'm very much interested in how he measures.

Well that and the Rams have the 4th best DVOA defense at the moment.

You're literally the only one drawing the line at 6'2", and probably just so you can include Rodgers. I'm not ignoring Rodgers, I'm telling you he's irrelevant to the point I'm making. 6'0" and under is what I'm saying will push him out of the 1st. When people bring up Mayfield's size it's because he's listed at 6'1" on Oklahoma's website and most people don't even think he's that. If you want to continue to include Rodgers that's on you, but it's disingenuous when it pertains to this conversation.

Assuming all of the QBs come out I think 2 of the 3 you mention will be available at our first pick. Still a lot of pieces to fall in place though before any serious projecting can begin.

His official combine page says 6'1". I suppose they rounded up? http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/tyrod-taylor?id=2495240 Also, the reason I brought up hand size earlier is that both (and Tyrod for that matter) had 10"+ hands. Brees - 10.25" Wilson - 10.25" Taylor - 10"

Yes, if his measurables are far enough away from prototypical he will be considered less of a prospect. This is true of every player at every position. This is a completely different argument and it's completely invalid. There's 2 starters in the NFL that are 6'0" or less. Wilson & Brees. Neither went in the first. If my memory serves, the last QB to go in the first that was under 6'0" was Manziel.

I've got both of those guys as day 3 prospects, for what it's worth. Mayfield is in the 25-40 range for me right now, and could move up if he measures better than I'm expecting. Still not someone I'd advocate selling the farm for, and still don't think he's great match for McD's character profile.