Billsfan1972

Unless the Bills crash and burn, these next three weeks will tell me very little. Want to see three blowouts, and that should be the objective, but anything less as long as 3-0, I still won't get too concerned and probably will blame coaching and play calling. Maybe the two worst offensive teams in the NFL and Baker Mayfield. What can the Bills do that really will get you excited again?

It was Dorsey and lousy offensive play calling very little to do with Josh Allen. Dropped passes hurt too, but generally the useless run calls and dinks and dunks when it was obvious that there were plays down the field to be made was the downfall. Oh and the defense giving up 500 yards, and the offense never having the ball in good field position didn't help either.

The issues with the offense wasn't the lack of runs it was runs at the wrong time bad playcalls and passes short of the sticks. A 2 yeard pass on second and 2 is a wasted play. Add to that a few badly timed drops and that was the difference. However the defense didn't make the big play when needed either. They allowed 500 yards.

This year he's been told not to. Also his receivers running deeper routes. Allen can and should do it more.

Hit the nail on the head,, but that is the issue. There were plays there early in the game, but the OC did nothing to help Allen and by the time Allen said "f" it, it was too late.

Let's blame Allen again..... Geez this get's old. The second play vs. Jax says it all, a 2 yard pass short of the sticks. A wasted play and part of the KD arsenal. Yes sometimes it does work, but you could tell early that the run, short pass, short pass was wrong against Jax and their formation. All Allen needs is the edge to run for two yards. The Bills already too have 4 Ints on balls thrown over 50 yards. No other team has more then one.

Well that will piss off some people (those that want Josh on a leash). Was watching a little Mahomes Sunday and when there is pressure and he elides a tackler, all bets are off as he can scramble. Josh is better, but you can see he's been told not to. Put a spy on him and a receiver comes open, don't and he has room to run. Not with the Dorsey dink and dunk approach they won't.

Boy do I wish it has.

As expected, I don't disagree. This may be the year the Bills need Allen to go scorched earth During the Bills’ four-year postseason run from 2019 to 2022, one of their staples has been a good-to-excellent defense in the regular season that can rescue the offense at any point. We even saw that against the Jets and early against the Commanders. But now, with multiple significant injuries to their defense, it’s potentially setting up as a year unlike any of the four previous ones. Outside of nickel cornerback Taron Johnson, question marks are everywhere on the back seven and the defensive interior against the run. It all could point to this being the year franchise quarterback Josh Allen has to go nuclear for the Bills to reach their goals. Outside of his Week 1 implosion against the Jets, Allen has played at an MVP level. He was dominant against the Raiders and Dolphins, and shook off a slightly slow start against the Commanders to have another excellent game. The Bills looked asleep at the wheel early in the Jaguars game, though that’s something I’ll be diving into when the All-22 comes out Tuesday. All of that was mostly without Allen drifting back into his college tendencies of not knowing the line between calculated risk and reckless. But should the defense have some difficulty limiting the opponent as their losses would indicate, this is an opportunity for Allen to hit a career marker in what is setting up to be the greatest quarterbacking season in franchise history. Allen, along with receivers Stefon Diggs and Gabe Davis, have shown the potential to be prolific on a weekly basis. But they’ve been able to dial it back with games well in hand in three of their first five games. Plus in past seasons, they’ve been able to escape a down game based on the strength of their defense. That luxury may not be as prevalent against the many average-to-good teams they’ll face as their schedule gets much tougher, very soon. They’ll still have some of those blowouts against the lower-tier teams like the Giants, but once Week 9 hits with a trip to Cincinnati, those will likely be far and few between. If you’re a glass half full kind of person, should Milano and Jones be lost for a considerable amount of time, it could set the Bills up for the type of football they’ll need to play to advance in the postseason. Their most realistic chance of winning the Super Bowl came in 2021 when the offense was unstoppable and playing a mostly perfect game in one way or another over the season’s final month. For the Bills to accomplish their postseason goals, perhaps Allen needing to be the guy every week will be the ultimate catalyst for them in the postseason. Or, if Allen puts too much pressure on himself, it could lead to more reckless decisions with the ball and some in-game implosions and losses, but that’s the worst-case scenario. Either way, we may see Allen pressed in a way he’s never been before in 2023.

Right back at you!!!!😜

Yep and ensure no 300 yard passing game. You love that 60's football huh? How about getting first downs those first 4 possessions by doing what JA does best? Longing for the days of Jack Kemp?

A perfect example of the "useless" play calling Sunday was the second play of the game, where it is second and 4 (a decent 6 yard run on first down by Murray, not Cook, between the tackles) and then a stupid 2 yard pass to Diggs that had no chance for a first down, followed by the drop by Cook on third. Anyone want to go through the first 5 games and I'll bet you the play calling was very similar, though results varied.

Dumb.... Look in the mirror. The defence stops the offense and then they get off the field. The Bills did not on Sunday. The Offense is to blame for a 17 play 8:30 drive, a 93 yard drive and 75 yard drives. 10 of 18 3rd down conversions, many of them over 7 yards and almost all pass completions? 500 yards in offense was Josh Allen's fault? I will grant you that the offense not getting first downs is an issue, but it is the defense that couldn't stop Lawrence, who had almost 200 yards passing in the first half too.

The Bills had two 300 yard games in 2016 (before McD the savour arrived). They ranked 29th, 30th & 24th in offense in his first three years. Yea I really miss those years when the Bills were at the bottom of the league in offense.

The Bills went McD's first 48 games without a 300 yard passing game, which is unheard of in modern football and 100% I blame McD of his philosophy. No other team went a year without one (yes probably the 2022 Bears). He can say whatever he wants and as said above the proof is in the pudding as the game plan every game coming out has been to try and establish inside running and short passes. It was to me, the reason they lost Sunday. You can control the clock completing passes too? Also TOP is due to the defense not getting off the field. Do you not get that?

Just stop it will you.😡 The early play calling has been the same in every game, with little play action or throws down the field. Respond to what I wrote instead of being a jackass.

There's the difference.

Eh to go Sherlock. Why does McD say something so assisnine, when basically every play called the past 4 weeks early in the game have been exactly those plays???? They generally are not incompletions as Josh is completing 75%+ of passes, but they are runs and short passes not beyond the chains. I have complete confidence that Josh can complete 1 of 3 passes beyond 10 yards (or run for the first down). McD, don't say it unless you mean it.

What do all these comments have to do with 4 dropped passes, which was the Thread. Not even reading them, but the last 3-4 pages and nary a mention. I keep clicking on expecting to see a comment on them and it is I think well thought out responses and a # of other things, but not the passes dropped. BTW I don't think officially any were called drops. The broadcast didn't show replays of the Knox drop (was it one or just great coverage). The Cook one was not an easy pass and again maybe one replay, and certainly catchable. The Gabe one was a very easy pass to catch imo and right in his hands and lead him perfectly. Start a new thread.

The Bills still have I maintain the best offense in the NFL if the play calling is there. The defense just needs to get off the field.

I'm not an expert. What I know is the Bills best weapon is #17, & they still too often use him incorrectly. As said above, how many passes those first four possessions were downfield, beyond the first down market or thrown with room to run (one to Cook, who dropped it)?

Here we go again. Of course you need to run the ball, but keeping the defense honest & guessing is part of the scheme too. Every time after a loss, there invariably are complaints about running the football. The Bills lost to Jax because they didn't adapt to what Jax was doing on defense when you have one of the top two QB's in football. Simple as that. When I, just a football "fan" can tell you when the Bills are running the football (especially early in the game), you know the defense knows it too and pins their ears back. Look at the first 16 plays the Bills ran. I bet they were scripted and the Bills had manageable second & third downs and had bad play calls (or drops). In particular second down first series pass to Diggs short of the marker on a managable down where a two yard pass was just plain stupid. Second possession again a run on first down that everyone knew was coming for -1 and then two 5 yard passes. Third possession trying to establish the run still and can't convert on third down (catchable ball). Fourth another second & 1 and a 6 yard loss on another run. Piss poor play calling imo. https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay/_/gameId/401547228 Want a running game? Let Josh run.....

Anyone not see this is a repeat of 2021 again? I know only 5 games in, but eerily similar as of now. https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/buf/season/2021

Yes he jumped for the ball and caught it. Wow a professional NFL WR paid $milions catching a ball. I look at catches in traffic, where one takes a hard hit, fights the defender and makes the catch, reaches across his body and catches a badly thrown ball or picks it off prior to hitting the ground (i.e. Jax 3rd down conversion that McD challenged). Catching a timing sideline pass going out of bounds is what they practice every day. Those were all perfect passes by Allen and Gabe made the catch. Good for him (+ one drop).

Btw just saw the Ravens' drops on Sunday and while Jackson botched the last three minutes, some of those drops were egregious. A few were not great passes, but since the press loves Lamar, blamed the receiver. No doubt Gabe would be the surest handed receiver there.