Billsfan1972

Run for it. You're Josh freakin Allen!!!!

Nice to see one defense that can make Mac Jones look good😡

Phew.... Still a slog

Again try 10-16, but add up to the yards again 134 not 107, and of course a few ridiculous rushes, including one on 4th and 4..

Check again as Allen's #'s wrong. And thanks for including OT. https://www.espn.com/nfl/playbyplay/_/gameId/401326633

Remember, Josh too has now been told not to run. He has been reined in way too long. Yes some of us look at coaching and scratch our heads.

So if they don't get to the Superbowl or win it, then who is to blame? Yes I think Josh Allen is the best player in the NFL,and yes held back by coaching. They better win multiple with him as that should be the floor.

2009 is 15 years not 23.... Roethlisberger, Eli Manning and Rogers all too in last 20 years.

Pretty sure you're missing Brees in that list.

I never said that what I said is I think McD has stunted Allen and that is my biggest concern about him. I then cited Pederson, McDaniel, Reid and Johnson as coaches who have had a big hand in their qbs' success.

Good enough to keep many on the coaching staff employed and many overrated?🤣😜

What???? Your obsession with me is scary. I've said over and over that McD is a decent coach, and damn I hope he and the Bills win a Superbowl this year. What I've never liked is how bad the offence was 2017-2019, the continual talk of "culture" and yep 13 seconds.

Again yes we know on my threads it is popular, but go to any thread were one questions McD or his tenure and the person who posted it is eviscerated in the first post. Conversely praise McD and nothing but positive emoji's (looking at you eball). I hope none, but many link them and doesn't question McD's development of him (which I do and that infuriates some). Do you think McDermott should be credited with Allen's progress? I say this because Reid certainly has played a hand in Mahomes ascension, Pederson for Hurts, McDaniel for Tua, Ben Johnson (OC) for Goff's resurgence........

There are many who do hold McD as the saviour of the franchise. Look at any thread questioning him and the emoji's that almost all are vomits,disagrees and negative as they disagree with any criticism. I will pound on the drum that McD has hindered more then helped Allen. The moves and money have been invested more in the defense then the franchise qb.

Young was a top pick and TB gave up after 2 years, bit then Young also didn't play much behind Montana. He is a very interesting case. I was referr8ng to those who were considered busts and then had success. Alex Smith is a good example, but even end the end he was just above average when better coached.

I was talking near the top first round picks. Some like Young after 2 years went to SF and languished a long time behind Montana before they got their chance. Others had glimpses but not much more imo. Manning doesn't count as he was a star. I was looking at duds, who then flourished elsewhere. Again a McD truther. He had Peterman start the 2018 year, so obviously thought more of Peterman then Allen at that point. Just because you don't agree with me, don't have to say that. I saw many things he should have done early to accelerate Allen's development. Thought he could have done things differently. Regardless we're here now.

Casey is a perfect example. Come playoffs he crumpled. And now the Raptors too moved on from Nurse. They were an average team, not bad in 2016. Heck outside wins/losses they were better in almost every aspect.

I love when people say something like this. The 2016 bills went seven and nine and were in the playoff hunt until week 16(ot loss to Miami and Rex resigning fired). He took the 16th ranked offence to 29th and the defence was pretty much the same. Yep got some breaks and Andy Dalton got them into the playoffs. Then came Allen.

From a McD fan. I too think they'd be around 500, like they were much of the 19 year drought. Allen makes them a Superbowl team, however can McD get them there (or not get in their way). I hope he does.

Kurt Warner was bagging groceries (he was undrafted). Many QB's that were low draft picks have excelled under the proper coach.

Been a while since the word Culture has been used. It was overused and frankly was tired hearing it all the time. Rightly or wrongly I will continue to note that McD took over a perfectly functional offense and turned it into a bottom 3 one his first two years (marginally better year 3 @ 24th in the league). He is not an offensive mided coach and with Allen as the QB, that is not a good mix imo.

I don't care...... I watch the NFL every week and watch probably too much. However I don't do a deep dive into the coaches at all and sure I can't name 50% of them or know the new hot shots or best one's according to the experts. But I watch the Bills and frankly not overly enamored with McD. Of course I'll be told how wrong I am, but he took a perfectly functioning offense his first year coaching an turned them into a bottom 3 offense the next 2 years (same QB too).

Didn't they beat LAC this year (who were a playoff team last year). Like McD he made the playoffs his first year (and his QB missed huge chunks of time and the playoffs) with the same record and this year they look good. You like McD, I get it, however I don't agree with it.

Again here we go. Is McD's success due to his coaching or Allen as the qb? I think he was too slow in developing Allen (again jmho) and he still isn't playing to his full potential. Again some people here will die on the hill defending McD. I think he is a good coach, however he's done things on offense that are inexcusable imo (Peterman) and 13 seconds I can't forget (or forgive).

Drew really was the other example, but already showed he was a good QB prior to the trade.