Sojourner

🤦‍♂️ Oh boy. There’s pressure sure. But a guy like Josh has the ability to literally read the field in one or two seconds. On top of that he knows the play, his hot route or release on the concept. The first sack, the one by Ruke I can give you as that is on the other side of the field where the open man is. The third down one? It’s right in front of him, 2 guys. A wheel and a dig. The latter is picking up 5-6 yards minimum. The wheel route? Who knows. That could be a house call. Your bolded words are indicative of a problem that’s creeping up again. Josh holding the ball too long. Sure it’s down to personnel not being consistently open but that’s a tough task to ask man… there isn’t an elite/all-pro guy out there running routes. However, there was guys open at several points throughout the game, the question or problem is whether Josh saw them.

Lol. There’s screenshots above. Unless I’ve just used AI to generate them? Check the all-22 yourself. You aren’t going to have guys open every single play of the game. Let alone multiple guys. Sometimes it’s only one and the QB has to find him. Every screen shot above (with the exception of the run play) there is a receiver open… again. Every. Single. Screen shot.

They are all bad decisions by Josh man. There’s the receipts. That is back to back drives early in the game there was plenty more I can assure you. I don’t know what to tell you other than Josh was not good. Plenty of guys getting open so that excuse can go out the window. It’s looking more and more like Josh is back to his initial read and sticking with it; like you said… predetermined. If Josh Allen isn’t able to check runs, especially when you have box alignment like that then that’s a problem. Especially as he just secured an MVP accolade. We were allowed to run check during varsity football man lol…

Ok. Let’s get into it. Also find it funny you’re asking me to bring receipts when in that screen grab you’re not far off from plenty of poor decisions by Josh. QTR 1, 6:26, 1st & 10 (7-7) Josh incomplete to Dawson Knox. (Not a bad throw, just impressive breakup by Deablo for ATL. Cook getting wide open in the flat with the only defender having his back to the play, first downs so the safer pass wouldn’t have been bad; Josh is reading that side of the field after all) QTR 1, 6:21, 2nd & 10 (7-7) Josh right guard for no gain (Should have thrown the swing pass. Lanes are clogged and if the pass gets by the edge defender it’s blocked pretty well) QTR 1, 0:20, 1st & 10 (7-14) Cook left guard for no gain (Run should have been checked to the better side of the box instead of going left. Blocking certainly didn’t help but the matchups to run right before the snap are extremely favorable) QTR 2, 15:00, 2nd & 10 (7-14) Josh incomplete to Keon (Plenty of options if you’re including the throw he chose. Knox in the middle. Ty Johnson wide open coming across, only defender who can make the play is tied up with Knox.) The immediate play after is a pass to Shakir for 15 yards and a first down, which is funny because the concept is almost identical to the throw before with the exception no RB. Far less time for Josh to throw than the incompletion to Keon too. Very strange. QTR 2, 13:16, 2nd & 8 (7-14) Josh sacked by Ruke Orhorhoro QTR 2, 12:42, 3rd & 8 (7-14) Josh sacked by DeAundre Alford for -15. For the 2 sacks, if you can’t see the issue then I don’t know what to tell you. Especially the 3rd down one. See plenty of people crying and screaming there’s no one open. These screenshots are 2 drives. Plenty of people open. Plenty of bad decisions. Critiquing Josh for having a bad game is treated like a cardinal sin. Facts are facts. Josh didn’t play great. That doesn’t diminish his talents or capabilities and why people treat pointing out such is absurd. I can go into more depth to prove to you even more there was some bad decisions that were made by Josh and also that people “weren’t open” again…

Yup. Was there also. Certainly seemed that way. Most of why we’ve seen is there’s only ever one guy open when we are passing, if any at all. Throw the blitz, give him little to no time to make a decision and this is what we are seeing. Not putting them on the same level as the Lions because the skill players they have are substantially better but like them if you can take away the ground game and force pressure to put the QB in an immediate decision, it’s your best chance for success. The Pats game wasn’t as bad as the Falcons; from a whole team standpoint, but Josh’s play wasn’t dissimilar and I can only completely agree having watched it in person, on TV and the All-22 that something is indeed off. Like @Casey D said, Josh is too good not to rebound. We’ll get back to better play.

Here come the lynch mob for Jim. Apparently you can support Josh til the end of days but are unable to critique him by some people when he’s actually had a bad game. Not a lot was good, if any, against the Falcons but we did in fact lose a game because of Josh; not Josh alone but he played a significant part.

Ok Barb.

And all of that was essentially what I said which you quoted lol

Ok thanks. Just think that’s one name on the poorer teams that has no chance of being moved. Saints don’t have much room to work with in the cap, $14m in the red I believe and did pick up Olave’s contract. Think that’s the point why they’d move on from him like some people are hoping. Gives them more cap flexibility whilst recouping a high draft pick and possible player/s? Texans don’t have much either but significant space that some restructuring would help. Add on to that Collins’ contract is factored into that, one that is extremely low in comparison to the league for a guy of his talents when healthy. Jayden Higgins and Jaylin Noel seem like they’re struggling and the only guy on that team outside of Collins who is worth anything is Tank Dell, who has serious durability concerns with his size. Collins is pivotal for Stroud and that offense’s future successes. That’s where I’m at. But, if in some world Collins is available you go balls to the wall.

Serious question; do you actually believe he is remotely available?!

Atlanta is rife with Gentleman’s Clubs. Must be his disguise.

Those moves smell of an Olave/Shaheed trade!

Absolute stud. In a previous post it’s understandable how he became a headcase in Pittsburgh. Would see nothing, make one or two catches; one of that type of quality you linked, and then back to nothing. It wasn’t like Pittsburgh had insane talent at that position too. I think many would be lead to frustration if they produced stuff like that then were given nothing for sustained periods. Someone mentioned him being a headcase like Antonio Brown and Diggs. I can see it but in the right circumstances where he is THE guy, I think he contains himself and shows some decorum.

Oh I understand that and I’m not advocating that he’s starter quality but he has the success to be a backup in this league. That SEC is filled with talent on the defensive lines who he lined up against regularly, a lot of which ended up being in the league albeit briefly. Im sure part was his counterparts on the line as well to facilitate that success but you don’t walk out of a stacked conference with all pro awards and a blocking trophy simply by winning on your size and strength alone. One singular isolated year? Sure. Multiple? That’s some talent there. Technique is fundamentally it in the pros so I can’t disagree on your main point. Especially given the work Kromer has done to develop the guys we’ve had in and out of the offensive line over the last 4 seasons

“retiring for you Gregg! Keep attending buddy!!”

Again, the guy is a number one. Targets 8-12 p/g) needed to meet the production and keep him complacent from throwing a tantrum. Dallas has worked wonders for him. 1) because CeeDee is injured and 2) he’s in a contract year after getting traded. Dude makes ridiculous catches routinely.

Still amazed SVPG hasn’t developed into even a remotely decent backup. Guy was a stud for 3 years for the Bulldogs. Won the award for best blocker in the SEC his final season, was all-pro SEC multiple times and unless I remember incorrectly only gave up one sack during his collegiate career that amassed around 1500 pass blocking reps. I get some players don’t just work out but he has the caliber and performance in the college ranks to at least be a backup at worst.

Why did you not keep 4 and 6 then?!?

Need to get Ed Oliver involved in the scouting then. “Head of Horse Power talent”.

Hard pass on Ridley. He’s seeing some serious volume for the Titans and doing absolutely nothing with it outside the outlier of a game he had last week. Jeudy? No thanks. Another guy that’s only productive when seeing serious volume of targets. Marvin Harrison might have been a shot if he didn’t finally show up in that Seattle game where to start he continued dropping balls and showing little effort and smarts on plays. Even then, they probably hang on to him. You don’t move on from a guy one year after drafting him that high. Wilson and Waddle aren’t being traded to a divisional rival unless it’s astronomical compensation. Olave is the only guy on your list. Keon and a second wouldn’t be a bad trade. The fans aren’t happy with him and are dogging him left and right for some of his play against the Pats this past weekend. Seems like a perfect replacement; whipping boy switch.

Thats f’ing brilliant!!! Thank you!

If he turns that program around with Dart, sure. I’ll finally tip my hat to him as a HC. Otherwise it was just a case of Josh catapulting him to success.

Yeah, Edmunds had some rough moments but like others have said, his presence in the middle of the field is sorely missed. Bernard makes his fair share of plays so when you factor in salary and production, they did make the right choice regardless of the player.

Maybe but Pickens strikes me as player who has to be the main guy on a WR core and as long as he has that he’ll be good. The kid was making plays left and right with some unreal catches when targeted in Pittsburgh then wouldn’t see the ball again for large spells, I can understand the frustrations he had regarding that. Sometimes you have to deal with the guys who are unhinged if they can be a serious addition to the team. Hopefully we investigate signing him this off-season if he becomes available because that talent isn’t available every year. however, I don’t think we’ll be able to acquire his services as he’s going to get a massive deal, no question about that.

Seems like a WR1 is a fantasy trade… lol