BillsShredder83

Yeah youre spot on. Unfortunately with 3 big returns between 2 players, I also am highly suspicious how much of it was us versus them lol

What the heck was up with all the awesome returns yesterday? Felt like we broke off more nice returns yesterday than we have all year, or even all of last year! Suspicious that TB may have horrendous ST's, but hoping its not a fluke. Also, would be a great time to get Ray involved in running game. We need a 2nd guy to be able to put out in the run game (Ty seems more comfortable in pass game). We cant afford to grind Cook down like we have rest of year.... but we also need a 2nd guy putting out. Really hope we can build off Ray & Ty having nice days yesterday. (Also loved Hardman's deep shot down the field!). Worst case, let Hardman return Kickoff's and turn him into a punt catcher. I read he had 9 punt return fumbles in his career before yesterday!

No. Its hard to sound authentic when clearly biased, but his fingers got up under the lip of the helmet, and caused a reaction exactly the same as a face mask. At first i thought it was a bad call, but i think it was actually a super high level call.... especially once that "rule specialist" guy came on... that dudes a shill for NFL, but he said their is a provision for it in rulebook, I doubt he waws making that up... either way good call and id say the same if it was on us Yeah that one was rough. Lineman call that a "*****", its advanced lineman play, but basically, you catch a player over extending/reaching and you redirect his momentum and drive him down. Dion has been a beast with it, but he got flagged on it twice last year.... which is rough as hell, considering thats basically highlight reel lineman stuff

I could wrap my head around him spelling Shakir lightly and maybe some reps for run game. He'd need a good week at practice and a total attitude change. Could be great for him to have to earn it, instead of gift wrapping the snaps hes seen. Could also completely undo him and see him off roster in 2-3 weeks. Im not worried either way about him

Allen will be completely off his leash with scrambling and designed runs IMO. it will go back on at some point. I dont expect 44 or whatever again, but hoping we find a way to make it work

Gabe can block it too though. Fairly confident he would. Next year is a different story, but knowing this team, and seeing the WR predicament we are in. Hes in great shape to see playing time and meaningful snaps. Hes not going to find a better place than where hes currently at to rehab his image and show what hes got. Have to imagine Bills have msde it clear to him, and they feel confident hed refuse getting poached!

Dating yourself here lol was thankful to look him up and realize I never knew him, not someone I knew and forgot about haha

Bananas take.

Is Henry on injury report? Its super logical that hed be washed. Hes ancient for a RB, especially with the physicality he has, and also his speed being such a weapon. The type that losing half a step would majorly hamper his game. However, like the old Brady pats, everytime it looked over, they got up like Michael Meyers. Fully realize this is more a Bills ptsd post, than it is a valid concern... but id feel better knowing Henry hadnt been making injury report appearances this year.

Why isnt that an option in your opinion?

Encouraging to see something we dont usually see. Not just default D , every scenario, every team

4th is a pipe dream. Maybeeee if its '27. Id be impressed to grab a 5th, but very well could end up being a pick swap of 6th and 5th type deal

Fair. I cooled down over the week. Usually over a loss by Tuesday. Especially something like a division loss, where it was 'their SB', we get outplayed, but had some mistakes. Last week wasn't even the blowout, it was the 53 man, emotionless, walking corpse. Today was ugly but it was a win against a good (not great) team. We can build on that, theres something to look forward to. We quite literally cant have another let down game like that again. We don't control our destiny with 1-seed, but we keep winning and we could get back in driver seat.

I definitely get that. I dunno that im educated enough to have a real preference on 'chicken or the egg' for GM vs HC.... but whoever came first is a guy i want fully making the decision on the other. Is it usually hire HC and then they hire GM? Or is it a mixed bag

Hes not blameless, not even close. But I think hes been very limited as a result of injuries and Keon. Baffling it took this long to change him out. Also were not out of the woods. Teams will adjust. Still very worried about the strength of that room and Bradys game plans, but huge step in right direction!

First off, we were playing 10 on 11. But it was worse because it was a wasted progression in Josh's process. You could tell he also didnt trust him. So yes, it was addition by subtraction. But the mixup brought some fire and excitement not only to WRs today, but Josh. Palmer was helpful, more so in having to account for him, at least today. I still have hopes. Gabe wasn't flashy today, but effective and out of 3 grabs, 2 were at very clutch times. I dont think Shavers is all the sudden awesome, his day just goes to show you how dysfunctional the system was. Loved seeing Ty Johnson go the f*** off today. Incredibly confusing why he hasnt been used or effective this year. Same with Cook in passing game.

I get tge frustration but he is so evidently hurt bad and being forced to play because of other injuries. It sucks but its not on him anywhere near as much as everyone else. DC needs to scheme him some protection, admittedly harder to do with Milano sucking next to him. McDermott for sulking calling plays, or not taking the reigns from Babich. Its on Beane for assembling this roster. Rolling the dice on so many dudes that stay hurt year after year. For not making even a solid depth deal at trade deadline. Its all so frustrating

I prefer Ladd in the slot too. Just want to say Johnston being a bust is a crazy take. Hes not a high volume guy or all pro by any means, but "bust" sounds like someone who hasnt seen anything about him since his rookie year. He had 700yds & 8 tds last year. Half way in this season hes on pace for 1k yards and gas 6td already

Usually im a no on these with young high picks, especially after 2 seasons... if he wasn't being an idiot id be interested in giving him a training camp to compete for backup/spell reps in the slot. Its crazy we got this far in without giving that a real shake. But hes an idiot, not maturing, not playing hard. Maybe something will click but I dont think him losing his job today is going to serve to motivate him, or bring anything productive. I could see him going somewhere else and having very mild success splitting reps in slot, and people will complain it was too early to move on... normally they'd be right, but if he wasn't already, hes going to fully shut down on this team feeling "wronged" L-O-L Also, it doesn't sound like he was late. On broadcast it sounds like he missed it entirely. Could've been poorly worded on broadcast though Yeah, addition by subtraction. We've been playing 10 on 11

Personally think we should go big game hunting in trade market. And we should draft another as high as value makes sense in rounds 1-3. Move up a few slots if you have to make need match up with BPA correctly. I would've liked to see Keon get some shared reps in slot with Shakir, but I dont think hes remotely earned it. On paper hes the #1 on this team. Most snaps of all WR's. Josh Allen is his QB. 330 yards in a hair over half the season. Hes been disciplined several times. Brisk jogging routes. Crazy disrespectful and ignorant. Part of me genuinely thinks he should be cut as a wake up call and example to the rest of the team. I dont say that lightly.... but hes the best example of a guy with no fire. The one thing he did exceptionally well, and still has an advantage over NFL DB's is his build and 50/50 ball skills (lol!).... dude looks completely disinterested in fighting for them now. I dunno If hes a punk. Or Poyer made him realize he doesn't have it at the NFL level last year. Obviously were not in a position to cut him though. If something happens to Shakir, he'll get his chance in the slot. Im sure his confidence is shot too, which is another reason I change should've been made sooner. Probably wouldn't change anything, but doesn't mean thst wasn't the right thing to do. Crazy

Bro I hope McD lobbies for his job, like you are for his. If you require a perfect atmosphere to get your job done, youre not good at your job. Were not going to get a season with: -no injuries -the nfl rolls out a 31 team season, a Chief-less season -a draft class with no busts -a weaker division than weve had for 9 years -a #1 WR looking for league minimum Every team thats ever won it has overcome adversity in critical moments. What youre looking for is some kind of wild windstorm of good luck to get over the hump. Josh's clock is ticking, im not willing to wait on that. Im feeling greedy and its not just 'one before I die anymore'. It is 'one before Josh retires'. I didnt account for this effect on my psychology when we landed Josh, but winning one without/after Josh would not be nearly as fulfilling for me.

I can: A. Just human nature in 99% of cases. B. If they weren't tuning the staff out, and the team still respected and believed in them. Then they wouldn't have played as spineless and disinterested as they have in more than half their games this year.... even in wins. Even if they think they respect and believe in McD, and this is how they respond, then I have no interest in this staff.

There is a hugeeeeee area between lunatic, sh** teammate Pickens, and the BS half measure WRs weve brought in. I am NOT against bringing in a semi problematic/highly talented dude, IF the problems are off the field. I cant get on board bringing in a awful teammate and awful locker room guy. Hes post CTE Antonio Brown, without having the brain damage yet lol

That was a historically dysfunctional ownership/FO at the time (Al had to be the worst owner in NFL at the time). Kiffin was like 34? Hes brushed shoulders with nothing but the best mentors since then. He bounced around between jobs at his choice since then, but has been successful at every stop and majorly over achieved with Ole Miss. Hes quit drinking, grown up a bunch and its shown. He'd be offensive minded HC, which is a requirement for me, and is a trend setter among modern offenses. Brings attitude and swag to a team severely lacking. He'd love to coach Josh. And would help draw major interest from top coordinators. Im confident hed bust his ass to bring in a serious DC to compliment his offensive skill set. Adding a legendary recruiter could only help in free agency. If I was a young FA that's a cool young HC id want to play for too. There are probably equally qualified candidates but hed be at the top of my list. You think Josh wouldn't be licking his chops to play under a guy like that?!

No disrespect to anyone personally, but am a bit shocked to see such a well informed fanbase/message board, clamoring for Gruden. He hasn't won s*** in 24 years, and has been outta the league like what, 18-20 of those? A guy is good at doing YouTube breakdowns so hed be a good head coach? I can read a John Grisham book, should I go write a #1 NYT best seller? Lol