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Think Josh is dangling heavy meat like he's feeding a crocodile pit?

Has MIA done anything to indicate they are looking to move on? I havent seen anything at all

Verdict is a lot more murky this year than it was this time last year.

Late response... but I agree with the bolded. Im not 'blaming' the offense. They more than held their end of the bargain with a better defense... unfortunately, we're not built that way. Investing in the holes in the defense is needed, absolutely. I just think investing in the defense is a diminished return, compared to our offense with Josh. Josh raises the level of everyone around him. IF Y = 1 then -->Josh x's Y = 5. If Y = 5 then --> Josh x's Y = 25 It's easier, cheaper and more reliable to buy points (PPG) through the draft/FA/trade , than it is to try and reduce points through draft/FA/trade. We dont seem to develop guys on the DL, which is where we should get the most bang for the buck investing in the defense. Use the top of the draft to get Josh a true #1, and the rest will fall into place. A true #1 WR adds 3-4 ppg so much more reliably, than getting the defense to shut down 3 points. Brian Thomas Jr on this team would've got us over the KC hump. I don't know that even a Myles Garret does. I want Josh to have a real threat at every level, and we have nothing a SB aspiring team should have starting at outside WR. I cant see even an all defense draft getting us over KC. Theyll just out scheme us. Now that I write it out this is more of a criticism on Coach, than probably anybody else.

Package picks and Cook to go get an impact WR/CB if we think he fits a need. If not take that package and call around the league for WR1's or guys stuck as #2, who want to be 1's. Were not going to land some perfect sweetheart deal. Were going to have to give up picks, maybe Cook or someone else, and the player is going to be avail because he wants to get paid... and we're gunna have to pay the guy.

1,000% A. Very few backs worth paying B. He doesnt do the things in the passing game to warrant a 2nd RB contract (very few do in his defense) C. All the best teams trade at top value. Max return & save $15M D. I doubt anyone in that building/lockerroom appreciates the way hes handled this. 0 to 100 outta nowhere

If Dart slides to 2nd I'd go get him. Hes a dawg. Reminds me of a rawer version of a dawg from Wyoming. Not saying he'll replicate that by any means, but if surrounded well and developed I wouldnt be surprised if he developed into a QB right around the 10th-12th kinda ranking. Tannehill type career

Leave my boy alone! LOL I see him every college Saturday on ACC Network! Dude is handsome and great at his job now, I know youre playing and I am too. We thought he was gunna be Josh, before we knew who Josh was. Everything happens for a reason and the way its supposed to, but I still have a soft spot for him. I think he gave it his all to make it work, its not his fault he was way overdrafted in a bad class. As far as Geno, good for him, hard to dislike that dude. Perfect bridge guy, and EXACTLYYYYY who I want mentoring my young guy when I end up drafting one. Probably the ultimate story of resilience in the NFL in the last decade. There are a million dudes like him out of the league in 3 years. 67m career earnings so far, not too shabby!! Strikes me as the kinda guy who did a great job saving it. Easier to hang onto when you think the ride might end at any minute

Completely agree with your original post, and this follow up. Josh was MVP, his lights out, mistake free football was the major deciding factor, but there were several players that had seasons like that! We've seen him ball outta control and not win MVP plenty. Why win this year? Because his receiving talent (or lack thereof ) was significantly lower than his peers, and what we've seen him have throughout his career. He made a giant step in cutting down on crucial mistakes, no doubt. Do I think he could do it again, absolutely!! Imagine if he had the same type of year with a real NFL WR room though, that amplification could put us over the top. TL:DR Josh could absolutely put out another year like that, but itd be nice if he had a better supporting cast. Having a top QB doesnt mean investing minimally at WR position, and Im actually polar opposite of that. The synergy of having a real outside threat or two is 1 + 1 = 10. If I'm allowed to add one bonafide playmaker to this team; WR alone is going to give us way more juice than any other position. I'd take one top 10 WR over adding even two top 10 players being added to the defense at any position. If there is a WR in this draft they feel strongly about, do whatever it takes to go get him. If we dont see that guy, we need to pound the phones and talk to all 31 teams to see if that guy can be shook loose elsewhere. We should be willing to give a healthy generous overpay for the right WR

Forgive me for being out of the loop.... did we make any position coach changes on the DL this offseason? I just have 0 confidence in our development of DT/DE despite this being a good class to pick from. I doubt Beane thinks the same thing as me and decides "no sense in drafting those positions high" but from a mock draft standpoint, it could minimally decide a tie break for me. We absolutely need a talent infusion there but also has a diminished return value, especially when needing high end immediate starter out of our 1st rounder. Frustratingggggg

Dude had bad hands, enough where we seem to not trust him. I'll give up some ability for a young guy with dependability and upside (and $15m) This isn't me talking down on Cook. He's been fantastic but not what he was advertised as. Kinda the opposite. Thought we were getting an elite pass catcher, with above average rush skills. Id say the opposite of that fits him more than his draft day predictions

...If cocaine was a personality. I hate this scumbag. Thank God he has an albatross of a contract to keep me from even considering how fun that'd be for 12months lol Ever meet a vile woman with perfect bewbs? And get mad at yourself for even looking. That's Hill

Regular season matters very little. If we crush it, great, do it in the playoffs.... if the offense has a chance to win it, and theyre struggling to consistently move the chains in the playoffs, do I care they put up 30ppg? No. Thats exactly what happened vs Chiefs this year. We def did not make moving the chains look easy. Too many 3rd and long. Too many times where extending a drive 1 series wouldve put up at least 3, changed field position, or given our defense a little more time to catch their breath. It did look hard at times, and its because we arent a fully balanced team. Crowd the line, crowd the middle, give minimal attention outside the hashes because nobody will make you pay there. Were so close. Really wish we'd addressed WR1 last draft. Hoping Keon comes around, but his ceiling feels like a real nice WR2. I just want one top 15 outside WR's. Bet Josh does too

They mustve got lenient with it, ive seen Dawkins do it for sure and was lost i thought it was illegal Bingo! Bring back the Alstott character pleaseeeeee

Really? Why? I get we had a "failure" (was a 1st down), but that play has done more good than bad against us. I cant even think of an instance weve faced it other than Philly? If you dont like Josh taking a beating, take it outta the gameplan except pure emergencies. Dont see how this helps us at all "Health concerns" LOL you mean QB injury concerns?? Find someone else that can run the play and sub Josh. Its the ultimate football play, we dont have a football guy? Give Ray Davis reps, and line up Cook or whoever behind him. The threat of a pass on that play isnt "real"

This makes me so sad. What an era. Still cant believe what happened, was my favorite non-Bills football

Weird. WTH could this have been about. Eagles clearly want to keep it, im very much assuming we do as well??? I cant see how this topic would get heated

Regular season stats mean nothing. We left a lot of points on the bone in AFCCG. Its easier to predict "buying" points, than it is to pay to stop them. You think if we went defense on every pick the next 2 years, we're gunna be in the vicinity of Eagles defense? Cause thats the defense its gunna take to win on that side of the ball with McDermott vs Reid. Im not saying ignore defense, or even go light on defense. First priority needs to be getting Josh a true #1, however you have to do that, doesnt matter. We have a chit ton of extra picks, and all of next years. IDENTIFY THE WR YOU WANT, GO GET HIM.... THEEEEEN USE EVERY PICK ON DEFENSE AFTER THAT IF YOU WANT!! Get me a stud #1, and then im stoked to draft a badarse DT. CB. DE. Go BPA at DT, CB, DE with every pick after. Wonderful. I'll be stoked to see the defense improve, but until we get Josh a guy who can decide hes going to be open despite whatever coverage is coming his way... our seasons will continue to end in heartbreaking close games. Year, after, year.

100% this. WR on this team is the only position that can provide an absolute Hiroshima of synergy!! 1 + 1 = 10 Go get Josh an elite #1 again. I dont really care what it takes if its the right guy. So frustrating to have not done it last year, but I get crap happens. We just can not enter another season without a #1 WR. We have a high end #2. Then, with development realistically we could have a few guys worthy of being a true #3. Turn every stone for a trade for a veteran stud. Or identify a stud in the draft, go up and get him. Work the phones and take a gamble to trade up mid-way now..... and draft day make another move to go get your guy. I know that sounds crazy, but put an AJ Brown on this team. We got atleast 1 chip, pushing for #2 this year. We saw the type of defense it took to stop Mahomes. We are not 1 or even 2 drafts away from having that kinda defense. Anything less that 2024 PHI defense isnt winning you a chip. Josh having a true #1, has us win that AFCCG buy 2 touchdowns. We stay out of the 3rd and longs. Make Spagnola dedicate serious resources outside the hashes. We have no outside threat. So they stack the box, and hover over the middle.... then were forced to run the ball into run prevent type defense... and throw the ball to middle of field. IT PLAYS INTO THEIR HAND. Go get a #1 1 + 1 = 10

The only way to make need match value (aka BPA): A. Sheer f'n luck B. Trading up C. Regular Trade "A" for a WR ould be dope, but very unlikely. "B" & "C" make the most sense. I dunno that theres value in trading up in the 1st round, but maybe they see something I don't. So maybe in day 2 or later. C - may be a good option. I'm not looking for a Julio Jones in his prime type trade, but if somebody ends up deeper at the position than needed, and we can make a draft day trade, my panties would be soaked. WTF did AJ Brown go for 2-3 years ago? I remember thinking it wasn't nuts, and hard to argue Eagles didn't win that trade. Now, who?? Noooo clue.

This is a great philosophy. G2 disagree with the RB in the 3rd though. Its a non-issue for us at #30, but if Jeanty is sitting there, I'm 100% sprinting to podium, taking him, and unloading Cook to recoup draft capital + save $$. No 2nd contracts on RB is a good theory for 95% of Backs. The board has been over the exceptions, high level dual-threat guys who catch the ball a ton. CMC. Saquan. I understand the argument on Cook, but im not doing $15m and especially not more than 1-2 years. I just think if your strategy is no 2nd contract, you g2 be willing to take a truly superior talent IF IT PRESENTS ITSELF. Especially at the end of rd 1 or rd2. Im not taking any back in the top half of rd1 though. Its not 2015, RB's are effective AF in the NFL right now. Build line first, but if you can polish the run game off with gnarly back, im doing it.

This stinks of grandma on FB thinks the OK symbol means 'white power'. I mean IDC, i wont miss it, but wouldnt be the NFL if they didnt over-react to something silly

He'll be fine the short time hes there. He starts to become unruly after 3 years. Dude built quick chemistry w/ teammates year 1, and i think he'll be model citizen. The flip side, Diggs is a route technician and exactly the guy i want Hunter learning from if im the Pats..... now am i intentionally choosing that contract to have him mentor Hunter? No. But he'll be fine this year, next too, and they'll move on. Bet him and Hunter hit it off and exchange some crucial knowledge. ... but that doesnt fit the (understandably) salty jilted ex-lover theme here. Dude gave us his best years, was awesome to watch 2.5 years at minimu, gave it his all.... but hes a mentally ill person. Strikes me as a guy you can never spend too much time with or things will go sour. Ive been around people like that, the thing that makes them so fun at first is, unfortunately, the opposite knives edge that makes him unable to maintain relationships. Try not to take it so personally

Not that this makes this a smart decision, but im pretty sure dude made more than that his last year at Texas w/ NIL's/sponsorships. Doesnt mean go all Jay Leno, but saying hes worth 800k isnt accurate either

Idk/dont care who wrote this. Firstly, weird metric to count re-signing players towards FA class... at least from a news point of view... thats more the way Id expect our FO to look at a class, so maybe thats a cool progressive way to view it, and I can accept we did pretty good from there. If were just counting FA, I dont think were #1, and not because we didnt go flashy Davante Adams, who most of these articles would anoint the best FA class. We had a Poyer/Hyde offseason that was under the radar and was best FA class that year. Im splitting hairs a bit on how he defines FA class I guess, so I can get on-board'ishhhh. But the bolded: EEEEEEKKKKKK. This smells like a guy only reading headlines. I dont think we signed him to fill the #4 or #5 WR role, disingenuous at worst. Uninformed at best. Obviously that contract for #4/5 role would be an overpay LOL Beane expects this dude to start as an outside WR or bare minimum compete heavily for the role, and to think otherwise is insane to me. Trash writers. Trash network. I've had more informative football talks at the urinal with my **** in my hand at any bar in Buffalo, than what this jag writer has to say