D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

I would realign everywhere. Rivalries be damned .Call the divisions what you must. NYG,NYJ,BUF,NE WAS,BAL,PHI,London TENN,CLE,PIT,CIN MIN,KC,DEN,SEA CHI,INDY,GB,DET NO,ATL,DAL,HOU MIA, JAX, TB,CAR LAR,AZ,SF,LV

I find it interesting that the vocal group that spoke in absolutes earlier about the perceived advantage are now visibly absent

That's your perogative, I'm hoping for as unbiased as possible.

The Bills were a 6.5 over/under win total and the Browns were are SB contendor preseason, so the talent gap was perceived to be enormous before 2019. Is it all due to coaching, culture and chemistry that Bills are 6-2 and Browns are 2-6 or was the talent pretty even to start with? Yes its possible, but I'm only able to ask 3 questions in the poll.. so I went with the three most appropriate ones. Thanks

So far it looks like Browns skill guys and edge rushers vs Allen, and the Bills back 7, the big guys are running neck and neck.

I'm not a professional pollster and I'll try to stay out of it this time. I tried to ask more closed questions and it became pretty obvious people wouldn't trade our roster for the Browns. The reason being that the perception is the Bills are better coached, have a better culture and are more productive. The reason I brought this topic up is some seem to believe it is a foregone conclusion the Browns are more talented. The supposition that they have better skill guys and edge guys is fair and I grant that. I would like people to weigh the rest of the roster, including QBs, Big Uglies and Back 7. My hypothesis is that when a deeper look is taken at the whole teams that it is far more even than people realize. We shall see. Thanks.

Because rankings alone don't tell the story. Efficiency needs to be accounted for as well as volume. For example, Browns pass defense is low in yards because everyone runs on them. 100+ passer rating means they are carved up by the other teams, never the case against the Bills at 74 rating. Not trying to be a dick, just point out the obvious.

Where the hell you get those numbers from or is your interpretation wrong? Bills Passer Rating allowed 74.8 Browns 103.6 ; Bills passing yards allowed 184.6/gm Browns 216.3/gm, +31.7/gm more! I might add that Bills have allowed 131 pts to Browns 205. On offense is it is pretty even Browns 5.2 carry/121yds Bills 4.6 129 yards, Passer rating Bills 81.2/ 206.6ypg, Browns 71.2/225 ypg. The volume is balanced out by the efficiency and the Bills have scored more 158-152. So a big NO the Browns aren't better statistically in every category on offense and the pass defenses aren't equal, and the run defense which has been our weakness is better than the Browns, and our points are better. So nice try, but a big wrong. Jeez this Browns team may have a bigger halo effect than any team in history. WHY??? And, you know what, not saying the Bills win, its the NFL either team could win Sunday. But, c'mon be thoughtful and present accurate arguments.

I keep reading that the Browns are more talented team, and I can't help by ask why is this a given? Is it a case of highly visible skill /dollar position bias? Examining for a second, Granting Chubb, Beckham, Landry, maybe the TEs receiving wise, Garrett and Vernon on the edge likely have an edge over Gore, Singletary, Brown, Beasley, and our Hughes, Murphy, Lawson etc. But looking at the rest; Our QB Allen gets the nod over Mayfield, Our Oline is perhaps a slight edge with Dawkins, Morse, Spain....I mean Bitonio is good and Hubbard is a vet but Greg Robinson...c'mon Our secondary...again c'mon not even close, Interior DL Phillips, Lotulelei, Oliver, Taylor are at least a wash vs Ogunjobi and Richardson...I mean if you throw the stats into the evaluation they're rush defense is way worse than ours 4.9/carry vs 4.4 and 141 yds vs 111 yds. Our LBs Edmunds and Milano rate an edge over Schobert and the rookie Wilson. Our pass defense allows passers a rating of 74 vs 103 and yields 30 fewer yards a game! In summary, Yes the Browns receivers, running backs and edge guys are better athletes and make more money but Bills win the less glamorous areas O-Line, Defense across the board, have more depth, have a culture that doesn't commit the penalties the Browns do or the turnovers, play as a team. Oh and our QB is a better player too, check the numbers!!! I mean the real question is would you trade our roster for theirs- not me!

MWI is a serious offense!!but with Crown we'll make an exception

They are very different players. I think Josh is a rythymn passer and Daboll screws him up by having the offense dawdle around. He goes into his slow down mode and snaps the ball under 5 seconds for a run up the middle. Rinse and repeat.

Browns fan I assume

Thank you, the Allen haters seem to be unwilling to admit when he improves at something they criticized him for

No you're wrong. A 111.6 passer rating will win in the playoffs, the volume (yards) goes up when you throw it more. You conveniently ignored no INTs, and none in the last 3 games. Fantasy fans-jeez

B+/A- 111.6 passer rating(not his fault the coaches are playing Jauron Ball) that is not C/C+ material like some seem to think. When you throw in he was our best short yardage threat and he won, it has to be higher. No Ints in 3 straight and 7 TDs vs 1 Int in last 4 games.

Give me that all day, everyday

Terry Bradshaw is a bad analyst, I rest my case

8 games left, I'm not assigning any losses yet, on to next game

Yes it is flying under the radar how comfortable he looks throwing the ball.

especially Daboll

Josh has gone 98, 112, 82, 110 in passer rating and no picks in 3 straight games, only 1 in 4 games. His performance is flying under the radar a bit today!

Singletary not playing has really been a huge mistake this year

get this ball in the damn endzone

Josh has been really good today

The OC is holding the team back JEEZ