D. L. Hot-Flamethrower
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Last week, I introduced a poll to establish where Josh Allen's performance ranked him among the NFLs current starting QBs. Further, the ELO QB rating system was introduced to many as the basis used for these ratings.https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-nfl-predictions/quarterbacks/?ex_cid=rrpromo.Why do this? because all too often we make flip comments, " he's easily one of the worst QBs in the league because..." blah, blah, blah etc. My contribution was to place the QBs in Tiers or clusters if you will of similar ratings. The purpose of doing this was to avoid having to rank 32 guys individually against each other (really hard). It helps to be able to say " yeah he closely fits in objectively with this group". I also included an easier to read chart and this weeks updates. 2BD fans who participated placed him the # 16-22 tier edging out #12-15 slightly. Overall, about 85% would place him between 12 and 22. Pretty fair. Now ELO isn't perfect, but it does improve upon regular passer rating systems because it includes, running, avoiding sacks, strength of opponent faced, past performance, weighting more recent games higher than older games, and it properly weights the passing categories. Also, the adjustments made week to week to ELO are not outrageous and in some cases pretty minimal. Without further delay...... NOTEs: I included both Matt Stafford and Jeff Driskel this week because it's unclear if MS will play again in 2019. I also left Mason Rudolph in for PITT Key: LW-Last week, CUR- current QB Tm LWR LW-ELO CWR CUR-ELO Mahomes KC 1 257 1 257 Jackson BAL 2 251 2 251 Prescott DAL 3 251 3 242 Brees NO 7 214 4 224 Cousins MIN 6 216 5 216 Watson HOU 9 209 6 209 Wilson SEA 4 230 7 203 Rodgers GB 8 210 8 195 Stafford DET 11 193 9 193 Ryan ATL 5 218 10 187 J.Allen BUF 14 177 11 182 Brady NE 10 196 12 180 Murray AZ 13 178 13 178 Foles TB 15 170 14 170 Tannehill TEN 21 138 15 168 Carr OAK 12 182 16 166 Wentz PHI 16 170 17 166 Garappolo SF 17 156 18 159 Mayfield CLE 18 146 19 159 Winston TB 23 131 20 143 Goff LAR 20 140 21 140 Brissett IND 19 141 22 137 Rivers LAC 22 136 23 136 D.Jones NYG 24 126 24 135 Darnold NYJ 27 106 25 131 Fitzpatrick TB 25 123 26 122 Trubisky CHI 26 110 27 112 Haskins WAS 28 88 28 80 Driskel DET 29 71 Rudolph PIT 29 81 30 60 K.Allen CAR 31 37 31 54 Finley CIN 30 47 32 48 B.Allen DEN 32 35 33 21
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*****in' Pereira thought it was a good call!?
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Josh Allen - week TWELVE report card
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower replied to rayray808's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
B/B+ 93 QBR, ran well, managed the game well for the most part. He looks like the real deal right now. -
Week 12: Broncos at Bills
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
https://www.thespread.com/nfl-football-public-betting-chart Lots of public money coming in on the Broncos in the last 24 hours. The money was around 60% on Bills until recently. Are we about to get shafted by the refs because it not our time? Line is down to 3.5 in some spots now.https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/ -
So 86% of 2BD ranks Josh Allen somewhere between 12 and 22 , with it skewing slightly towards 16-22. Many of you who voted, mentioned you thought upper part of 16-22. It looks like we had a pretty fair and honest tally as no one was truly really out there. Unfortunately we didn't get some of the most strident opponents of his performance to vote. No surprise there, much easier just to spout off about something . I appreciate those so far who have taken a position one way or the other. Especially those people who feel he is somewhere lower than the vast majority think. Thanks the opinions, Go Bills!
