GunnerBill

He hasn't hit 50% once. He has only been at 40 or higher three times and two of those have been the last two weeks with Floyd nicked up and AJE down. If we can get the other two back Von can slide back into sharing the DE4 job with Shaq which is where he belongs on the current roster.

What do you mean by cut Miller some slack? I don't think anyone is attacking Von himself. Nobody is doubting his desire or effort to get back and impact the game. Nobody is blaming him. People understand the personal impact. But the fact that the Bills have a highly paid pass rusher out there who can't live up to his contract and isn't playing at the level we hoped for (for understandable reasons) is a legitmate point of discussion. It was a risky big swing on a player of age. Brandon Beane has been more willing to gamble on old guys than I would if I were a GM and Von was just the highest profile example. He got really unlucky with the ACL. It is what it is. There is a question about what they do beyond this year. But let's have that after the season. For now I hope Floyd and AJE can be healthy for this stretch run and we can use Von sparingly as the 4th man in the rotation.

Wilson will get signed. And he will start somewhere in 2024. But he won't make it a full season there either because he is done. Personally if I was a GM no way in the world I'd touch him. Nah he benched him because he is bad. Yes they are protecting themselves against the injury guarantee - sure. But they wouldn't need to do that if he was good. He is garbage. Hence they are moving on. Hence the finance becomes an issue.

He has consistently produced though. Over the last season and a half he has been extremely consistent. The issue is the first two and a half years of his career and because he was a covid pick, no pre-season, and the Bills attempted a body transformation I think a LOT of teams will look past that. AJE is getting paid this spring. AJE will get a bigger deal than all 3 of them.

They are running a varient of the Shanny offense too. That requires playing WITHIN structue.

Agree. The Giants move makes some sense. The Commanders move makes none.

Fair play to the Packers. What a tit.

He will. But I predict he won't start a full season there either.

100%. If ever there is a case in modern times of stats hiding the story Russ in Denver is it.

He still held the ball way too long. Missed the opportunity to hit open guys and his short form accuracy has fallen off a cliff. Sure, he throws a nice deep ball. And Payton managed to create enough schemed throws. But Russell Wilson isn't close to the guy he was in his prime in Seattle. He is a low end starter at this point.

Statistically, sure. To the eyes test I still think he has been bad.

But he couldn't cover up the fact that Wilson sucks.

It was one of my bold predictions before the season. Wilson is finished.

Best post in the thread.

Because he had ruined relationships with pretty much everyone in the organisation. I don't know how many times it needs saying but Doug Pederson was not fired primarily for on field results. He was fired primarily for what happened in the building not on the field. The Bills coaches did a better job than the Bills players against the Chargers.

Untrue.

I think he is looking at roughly 4 years; $60m; $30m guaranteed and $15m AAV. I mean Carl Lawson got $15m AAV for three seasons three years ago from the Jets on the back of two 5 sack seasons. Sure he had 8.5 as a rookie too, but I think teams will look at Epenesa and what the Bills did with him and be willing to ignore the production in his first two years as pretty irrelevant. The guy who is going to really cash in this offseason is Bryce Huff. Spotrac has him at $9.2m AAV. Man for that money I'd love the Bills to sign him. I suspect he will be in the same range as AJE personally. I still don't understand how that kid went undrafted.

That is what they normally try and do to limit the competitive disadvantage to others of having to hang on for the result of the later game. But then this is a season where the NFL was happy to have a team who'd been in London a matter of hours play one that had been there well over a week in the name of "experimentation" so you know, anything is possible!

I'm not sure that's my description of the Bills. I think the Bills are a good team who still stand above the average parity level of the league but who are capable of shooting themselves in one or both feet at any moment. On the days when the Bills are able to get out of their own way they blow teams away. Good teams as well as bad. They just need to avoid the self destruct button for six games and they could legitimately win a Lombardi. But we have struggled to string clean games together for a long time now.

While Cook got credited with two fumbles the first his knee was down. Had the Bills lost that it would have been overturned on review. But absolutely it still illustrates the point re. Irresponsibility with the football.

I think a drop from Hill to Pittman means multiple wins for the Dolphins. They are like a 7 maybe 8 win team in that scenario. It isn't just the plays Hill makes. It is what he does to everyone else on the field. In a year where there hasn't been a standout QB and where the league has been more weapon focussed there is no more impactful skill position player in the NFL than Hill. So he is my MVP vote.

And the 5 is a real longshot. We are almost certainly #2 or #6 / #7

They are already in their second run. Only 5 players started both their 2019 Superbowl win and their 2022 Superbowl win: Mahomes, Kelce, Jones, Nnadi and Frank Clark (since gone). That Superbowl last year should have been the birth of a new team and was in part a result of a 2-3 years of really good drafting. But they have made some bad personnel decisions in the last 12 months. They have mismanged the offensive skill positions and the offensive tackle spots and it is coming back to hurt them.

But we are a game up on the Jags and we can only win the division by winning out? So we can't tie with them surely? I think now one win is more likely than not enough.

And the #5 is almost certainly out because we'd need the Browns to lose out as they have a 2 game conference record lead so in a world where we win out but Miami beats Baltimore we'd need Cleveland to lose both (which I can't see) to have them at 10-7 and us at 11-6. If we have equal records they have the tiebreaker. So real terms it is #2 or #6 or #7 or miss out altogether. Wacky.