GunnerBill

Yea we need Stef back to his best. I thought he was exceptional on Saturday FWIW. I know they didn't target him a ton but it was his best game for a while. And yea, Ed has been elite this year.

Basically if we win the division we will be the #2, right? In that scenario we are 11-6 and the only other 11-6 division winner is the Chiefs where we have the H2H? There is no scenario is there where we can be the #3?

The thing I said for weeks is the Bills were still in it because of the unreliability of who was ahead of them - a young Texans team (and then Stroud gets hurt), a Bengals team with a backup QB and Chase hurt, the Colts who to be honest I am shocked have won as many as they have, the Jags who are mental midgets under pressure, Denver whose QB is still an issue, Cleveland who have a legit D but are on their 4th QB. It was always likely 1 or maybe 2 of them stuck on down the stretch like the Browns have. But for 3 of those 6 to be consistent was always highly unlikely IMO.

No he isn't. His contract with 5th year option runs 2 more years. And Miami will keep him beyond that too. He will become the number 1 as Hill ages out.

I think he is most likely winner. My point isn't really about who will win. It is more about trying to get under the skin of some of the arguments. I am a Lamar fan and long since have been. But to me an MVP Quarterback with 19 passing touchdowns after 15 games is kinda mad. But it has been a messy year. I stick with my view I'd vote for Hill if I had a vote.

I don't think you ever sacrifice getting better playoff seeding this year for an easier schedule next year but I do think since they added the 17th game and there are now 3 games on the schedule that are determined by position the previous year rather than 2 it definitely feels like a bigger advantage in a tight division race.

Just to update the netting off TDs minus turnovers point after last night. Just two left at the top: Josh Allen and Dak Prescott both +22. Purdy drops to +18. Not saying that metric is the be all and end all by the way. But it is something if (and all rational people think this) the biggest obstacle to Josh winning MVP is that he leads the league in turnovers.

I mean we did try and tell them.... that fanbase had an irrational hatred for Orlando Brown. At one point they were telling us Taylor would be a better left tackle than Brown. In fairness Taylor has been worse at RT than I expected. But LT I knew they were going to suck.

It is the league leading INTs. I have actually been back to look if any MVP QB this century has thrown as many as 15 picks. Manning threw 16 in 2009, but they went 14-0 before dropping their last two. Warner threw 22(!) in 2001 but again in a 14-2 season. And neither led the league in INTs. I then also did a netting off.... if you net off Josh's TDs (40) against his total turnovers (18) he ends up +22. If you do the same for Purdy he is +22. If you do the same for Dak he is +22. Everyone else is way off that. So there is a case those three just in sheer touchdowns minus turnover calculations should be it. That said... I am on record I'd vote for Tyreek Hill this year myself. I think it has been the year of the plamaker over the year of the Quarterback. And I'd reflect that in my vote.

The rules say they have to interview others so I think they will run a process. But Brady has to be the clubhouse leader.

The "let's go Cowboys" at the start of the Phins final drive was very audible.

After the results this week I feel increasingly good about getting in with 1 more win. Which last week I felt was a slim chance.

He has been the OC for 5 games.

It 100% does.

My other half knows all too well to consult me on Arsenal and Bills schedules before booking anything in at weekends during the season. I will very occasionally prioritise other things over a game, but that is my call to make. If you don't like that, there's the door. Jog on.

Yes. Because to execute any throwback touchdown you have to create an overload one side and a couple of short passes with your QB behind to throw the lateral to the open side.... it is good rugby tactics. LAC set it up really well. Didn't execute.

We weren't.

How many plans are successfull when the turnover battle is lost 3-0? I am not pointing with a microscope. I am pointing at the people making mistakes. And I have pointed at coaching plenty this year. It is totally inplausible to me that last night was coaching. It was unforced execution errors.

I am afraid we watched completely different games. The reason we didn't win going away was 3 turnovers, Josh missing two easy 3rd down throws and the OL having one total brain fart drive. The Bills were well coached, had a good plan, and but for unforced errors by players would have won by miles.

Take away last week and Johnson hasn't broken 20 yards a game or hit 4 ypc in any game. He is a JAG.

Offense and STs* but yep, agreed.

So when Josh misses a wide open Davis and Kincaid on 3rd down throws we blame coaching? Is there anything we don't blame coaching for? EDIT: there has been LOTS to blame coaching for this year. Both coordinators and the Head Coach as the Head Coach. But it has got ridiculous now. The Bills were well coached last night. The issues yesterday were all about player execution and individual errors that let a bad team hang around.

Yea that drive was almost a turnover given we went backwards ended under our own posts and Martin even getting to midfield was a triumph.

FIFY

After the first drive (on script) where the defense gave up 90 yards but stiffened it gave up 183 yards at an average of 16 per Chargers drive. The narrative that the defense was the problem last night is insane the issues were Allen, Harty and Cook needlessly giving the ball away. Did he? The Oline had one disaster drive and Cook but the ball on the ground. But the other three Bills drives that failed were two Josh Allen misses to wide open guys on 3rd down and then a stupid pick he didn't need to throw. Equally the play he makes for our first touchdown was incredible. So I am not ragging on Josh. But this was not, overall, a game where Josh was superman despite failure around him. This was a game where his receivers - Davis, Diggs and Shakir all made really good plays for Allen.