GunnerBill

He is insanely athletic for a DT.

What a play Ed!!!

That one was a hard throw.

And Josh was not down. Ball was out before knee hit.

Thank ***** the Pats didnt jump on that.

I don't think he has been 100% all season.

Don't think Bass can get it there at the moment. If he can that is what they should be doing.

The way Bill beats good teams? Special teams.

Oh FFS.

Let's go Buffalo. Would be nice to seal the playoff deal tonight. Leave next week for the division.

Wow. Slightly surprised they are going with Kingsley Jonathan in that timeshare with Shaq as DE4. He does give you a bit on special teams though, so maybe that is the thinking too. Brave call. I expeceted them to play it slightly more conservatively and to be honest think I would have done.

Yea they sounded bored in an exciting game. I did a very small bit of local radio soccer commentary back in my journalism days and the bit if advice the old boy who had been doing it for years gave me before my first gig was "make sure your excitement level is appropriate to the moment and the game, nobody wants Crewe 1 Shrewsbury 0 to sound like it was a world cup final on the radio." And it is the same the other way around. If you get a miraculous play off comeback don't sound like you are watching the Bills-Browns 6-3 game.

Yea. Time to throw is a mismash of so many things. Your OL. Your QB's speed in his progressions. Your offensive design. It can show you things. And generally when Josh is at his best his time to throw is down slightly and that is because it generally means he is in command, confident and reading things decisively so gets the ball out. But the way he extends plays he is never going to be a Joe Burrow in that stat.

The usage all year has confounded me a bit. They have done very little seam stuff with him. They did pre-season and then have hardly gone to it once the season came around and when they have ran him deeper Josh has ignored him (either not seen him or the progression didn't take him there). But pure production wise he is pretty much where I predicted he'd be as a rookie save for I thought he might have another TD or two.

So on Torrence it is in part because he was really good the first 5 or 6 weeks. Teams were putting their best defensive tackles on him and he was winning. Consistently. And the narrative built. What happened is teams watched film and they started using hybrid types or out and out edge players inside to speed rush the inside shoulder. Torrence does have a weakness there. And I think to an extent he always will because his foot speed is sub-optimal (which was the fit point some of us worried about when he was coming out). I expect the Bills staff to really work hard on technique in trying to mitigate that in the offseason and they can probably do so to an extent. But it will always be there. That said, his anchor continues to be really impressive and if he gets the first punch in on a defender it is rep over and he is a run game mauler (and has played a big part in turning us around in that regard).

People always say, rollout and play action when QBs are bad in the pocket. But you can't do that 30 or 40 times a game. Teams soon wise up. Eventually in the NFL it always comes down to can you play from the pocket. And for Wilson, the answer now, is not really.

How do you adjust your scheme to a QB with horrible short range accuracy, limited movement skills at this stage and who can't see over the OL unless you drop him deep in the pocket? I am not sure what you run from there other than a low percentage chuck and duck scheme. I think what Payton has got out of Wilson this year numbers wise is remarkable based on his vastly reduced skillset.

Yea I'd say #4 is a stretch too. But not a huge one. Somewhere 7-12 feels right. Philly, Detroit, Indy and Atlanta feel hard to argue with. Then I think Dallas, the Rams, Baltimore, Buffalo and the Vikings would be my next group. I think Houston was a top 10 line before the injury bug hit too. They have struggled down the stretch though with guys getting hurt and more backups having to play.

Dak? I mean sure he scrambles now and then. But I wouldn't put him in the Allen, Jackson, Hurts category. They are weapons when they run. Dak isn't a statue. But he is a pocket Quarterback.

It is for one who has had persistent knee and back issues. Body is broken down IMO. Doesn't move even close to as well as he used to.

Yep. He went undrafted having been considered a day 2 pick when stories emerged too late in the process for teams to investigate. Rex put on the full press but Collins signed for Dallas and went on to be part of the best Oline in football the next 2 or 3 seasons. He isn't that guy anymore.

Agreed. Al was great. But he has always fely like he is half assing it on Prime. Herbstreet is so low energy. The combo doesn't work. We all end up bored.

The New England game was totally on defense. The other games in that spell honestly there was plenty of blame to go around.

Ha. Possibly not quite. Bobby freaking Hart.

I think he is washed. He certainly looked it last year with the Bengals.