GunnerBill

I think they are the only one with less proven production at the NFL level than the Bills. Chargers 32. Bills 31. New England 30. What I will say is the Chiefs would have been 32 on this list for me last year and we saw how that worked out. I know they have an all timer at tight end but their most proven NFL receiver going into last year was MVS.

I don't think his vision has been coherent.

He is GREAT covering slots and tight end near the line. It is his the thing that stands out on his tape IMO. I do think that is slightly different to the question about him as a centre fielder. He has the physical attributes to do it. His tape isn't as good there though for me. That isn't me saying he sucks at it or anything to be clear. But personally I think as a rookie he is better served in the Poyer role than the Hyde one.

Oh he is only here because McD hand picked him. No doubt. But Beane running the draft would always look like this IMO. Unless he had a Head Coach who had personnel control over him. Indeed in terms of draft value via the JJ chart McDermott spent more day 1 and 2 capital in his 1 draft in charge than Beane has in his 7.

I do agree thar we haven't prioritised offensive assets - wide receiver in particular even nearly enough. But I am 100% confident that would have been the case wherever Brandon Beane was the GM and whoever his Head Coach was. So long as Beane has personnel control he will prioritise defensive line, linebackers and running backs. It is Carolina 101.

I was a firm no when you asked before. I'm still a no. But a softer one. I just am not a big Diontae Johnson guy and never have been. Sloppy route runner with bad hands and a questionable attitude.

Nope. LAC is the worst "proven" group. But they have 3 new wildcards to throw at it. Ours is probably second least proven and we added one dart but a second tier one. New England is probably slightly more proven (never been a big Juju guy but do like Kendrick Bourne and that duo more proven than Samuel and Shakir) they have two low second high third tier new darts in Polk and Baker. It is much of a muchness.

For what our need is I agree. Chark is the best fit. I actually wanted him last year. I have us New England and LAC as the worst 3. I don't think ours is worse than theirs necessarily but it isn't better.

I think McConkey catches. I went Worthy yards thinking big plays but Legette and Coleman make some sense to me there as well. TDs I think Coleman.

Agree unless they hired like a Shanahan or a McVay or someone who would have the authority to have final personnel say and use Beane as a glorified chief scout (although if you are doing that you'd be better getting someone else IMO).

I mean its still one receiver in 7 years first two days.

Beane gambles on a gambler. Interesting.

If you run sub 4.45 Beane tells you to ***** off to Miami. Gotta have another linebacker FC. A team that only plays 2 should be at least 6 deep at that spot at all times. He learned that from Gettleman.

So I also see Cole as more of a Poyer replacement than a Hyde replacement. I don't love his timing as a centre fielder whereas his instincts and timing are much better when he is in closer in the box or covering closer to the line. But I do buy the "he is the most athletic safety on the team" argument. Personally I think Edwards will start as the deep safety with Cole primarily in the box. But let's see how it shakes out.

I am 100 and I mean 100% sure it would be the former. I have done the pick by pick anaylsis of the Panthers drafts during Beane's decade in senior front office positions. 3 receivers in the first two days in 10 years. Over a dozen DL in the same period. It is who he is. It is how he learned. It is what he believes in.

While I definitely fall more on your side about this draft.... every team that has an elite QB for 10-15 years has to have at leadt one reset in that time. Because other position players don't age as well as Quarterbacks. New England had reload years with Brady. They still won their division and made the playoffs because the AFC East was a disaster zone. New Orleans had three 7-9 years in a row in the middle of Brees. Green Bay missed the playoffs twice mid-Rodgers. It is inevitable. Personally I expect the Bills to make the playoffs this year. But I don't think it is a Superbowl window year. Though as I said last night 2022 was supposed to be that for the Chiefs and their rookies all balled out and they won the Superbowl anyway.

He is another guy best in the slot though. We need a guy who is at his best outside.

Of course McD had a part to play but Brandon Beane's constant focus on the DL isn't because of Sean McDermott. It is because of Dave Gettleman and Marty Hurney. Seriously, people should go and look at the guys Beane learned his trade under. It isn't McDermott's influence that he drafts loads of DL and LBs and RBs and almost no WRs. That is who Carolina were when he was in that front office moving through the ranks. I disagree on that. To me the difference is a reload is about moving on older expensive players. A rebuild you are giving away prime age players for assets - what the Commanders did last trade deadline was a tear down for a rebuild. Sell any asset on the roster build picks. Miami when they first ditched Gase and hired Flo did the same. They are rebuilds. That is the distinction IMO.

C-. I think there were some good picks but overall slighlty underwhelming

I think he is a better longshot than Shorter.

Beane and McDermott signing the son of a guy they like? Well I never. Wait until Nate Peterman has kids old enough to be drafted.....

Obviously I agree on the top 3 given I had draftable grades on them all. Like Murphy (I actually like the other Murphy twin too who I thought actually played better at the Shrine game) but think they are probably better fits for 3-4 teams. Coker is worth a punt. I'd forgotten about him. Not sure he is more than a PS guy but definitely worth giving a try.

Conclusion - there are no UDFA WRs to get excited about. There is one guy on that list and he sucks. Beau Brady I feel for. He tested poorly and probably ia sub optimal athletically for the NFL. But the kid can play. Hope he gets a shot somewhere. He will compete his ass off.

Gabe Hall flat out gave up in two games this year. That is why he didn't get drafted. I never thought he was draftable. Tries when he fancies it. Talented but a quitter.

The last three years though the roster has been deep. It has lacked top end talent compared to the other top half dozen teams we have been competing with but it has been deep. It is why despite two years of pretty rotten injury luck they've still won a ton of games. The moves they had to make this offseason mean they are as shallow as they have been since 2018 and still lack that top end talent. I do think they have some good young players, I think they hit on some guys in the last two drafts.... Cook, Bernard, Benford, Kincaid, Torrence and Shakir but they are all (as we were discussing earlier) in the category of "good" at this point and they need to hope 1 or 2 of that group step up to be true difference makers. But they are going to be young, shallow and lacking in difference makers in 2024 unless someone has a significant breakout. They will just be hoping that by the end of next season we are adding Coleman, Bishop and Van-Pran to that list of good young players. I think they will see success in 2024 as the development of all those guys and making the post season. They do not think 2024 is a Superbowl contending season. That said, Kansas City didn't expect 2022 to be a Superbowl contending season in the building - they were re-setting some things and then they got hot at the right time and went all the way. When you have a top flight QB you always have a chance but I think we'd need Josh to have the best season of his career to have a shot. It tells me the regime is pretty safe with Terry. Because this is clearly a two year re-load plan IMO to have 2025 be the year that the second Josh Allen window opens.